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The question is: do you want us to sign Adama Traore? As many as are of that opinion say


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May 17, 2018
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Dont tell me how much football I watch. I don't think teams double up on him. In fact I think most teams will play the numbers game i.e. he rarely scores.

I think you're mixing up double-marking with doubling up.

When he has the ball, he draws multiple (as many as 4 or 5) players to him,

 

greavesy461

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Watching a lot of those clips it’s clear his team mates have no idea where he’s likely to run to next. Hopefully Conte can add some structure and predictability (for his team mates) to his running. Exciting times.
 

The Scarecrow

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That would make the entire readership of the ITK thread ITK by proxy
No, because when ITK hits the ITK thread or Twitter, it's published. The info is free for all. Whether that info has passed three or four or five links in the chain of information before it gets published is irrelevant. Unless Levy himself is posting, every bit of ITK will have been passed on through several people.

Bannister has good info. His hit rate is great. Whether he's a friend of someone with connections or a friend of a friend of someone with connections doesn't matter as long as the info is posted before it hits the mainstream media.
 

chrisd2k

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I think you're mixing up double-marking with doubling up.

When he has the ball, he draws multiple (as many as 4 or 5) players to him,


That happens because he gets to a dangerous area. If the ball was swing to the other side of the pitch the other FB and midfielder would cover him.

Double marking? How many players do you want for that system to work?
 

McFlash

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Also, any player in a dangerous area gets pressed in numbers. It's what you get coached to pass players onto your teammates.

What you call doubling up is just cover in a defensive shape. Some players like Messi or prime Bale you would think about but in reality if you have players following these guys around the pitch you are asking for trouble by leaving holes in said shape

And don't be messaging me later swearing about ratings giving it the biggun only to turn around later all apologetic cos you had one too many Shandy's.
I didn't swear at you and give it the biggun, just had a dig at you for negging loads of posts. It was supposed to be a jovial dig.

It's not my fault you're negative and argumentative
 

chrisd2k

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I didn't swear at you and give it the biggun, just had a dig at you for negging loads of posts. It was supposed to be a jovial dig.

It's not my fault you're negative and argumentative
I mean the title was "Im the fucker who complains" The fact you go through people's ratings says more about you than they do me.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Just needs conte to give him some structure and simple instructions and he will cause havoc.

Conte likes his wing-backs to be primarily wingers who can do a bit of defending, Traore is exactly that.

Conte is the wing-back whisperer so if he wants him and we get him I'll expect him to hit the ground running, literally.

Also if we sign him he's a bums off seats type of player we'd have not had since Lennon & Bale times.
 

Johnny J

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That happens because he gets to a dangerous area. If the ball was swing to the other side of the pitch the other FB and midfielder would cover him.

Double marking? How many players do you want for that system to work?
Whatever the semantics, opposition can't just let a player rampage down the pitch and hope he doesn't put in a good cross or shot. They need to try to stop that, and Traore is so strong and quick that it often takes more than one player to stop him.

Personally I'm sceptical of Traore because of his lack of end product, but there's no denying he's a handful to deal with, and I'm excited to see what Conte can do with him.
 
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fishhhandaricecake

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Pretty sure with him, we are going to get ton of free kicks and corners.
We need a proper set piece taker in team to exploit it.
Very good point.

We lose out on some many additional goals and chances to be created by not having a proper set-piece taker or free-kick specialist. As a midfielder and general perfectionist hopefully Conte realises this because as you say with Traore we will win even more free-kicks and if we want to do big things in the league under Conte then we need someone who can score from some of them not Harry 'hit the wall in my last 1000 free kicks' Kane.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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He's an absolute nightmare for any defender, Conte just needs to give him simple instructions as to where to get to to pass/cross and what to do when he gets there. It won't come off every time, mabye not even 50% of the time but he will create space and get into dangerous areas so many more times that e.g. Emerson would that he'll be well worth it and will far more suit what Conte wants from his wing-backs.
 

McFlash

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I mean the title was "Im the fucker who complains" The fact you go through people's ratings says more about you than they do me.
As I explained, there was a flurry of posts that were negged for no real reason, so I had a butchers and it was all you. So I sent a piss-take message.
Sometimes I get bored and like to keep an eye out for the Trolls.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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That happens because he gets to a dangerous area. If the ball was swing to the other side of the pitch the other FB and midfielder would cover him.

Double marking? How many players do you want for that system to work?
I think you are arguing, just to argue. The primary point - no matter the terminology - he draws defenders out of position, and out of shape.

That opens up opportunities for other players - up to Traore to deliver, and for the other players to exploit the open holes in the defense. But, ultimately, that is the goal for any attacking system, either with movement or passing, to pull defenders out of position to create scoring chances.

Right now, we don't do a great job with off-the-ball movement or passing, so adding a player like Adama should provide something that we are missing from the attack.
 

Dannyspur

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Very good point.

We lose out on some many additional goals and chances to be created by not having a proper set-piece taker or free-kick specialist. As a midfielder and general perfectionist hopefully Conte realises this because as you say with Traore we will win even more free-kicks and if we want to do big things in the league under Conte then we need someone who can score from some of them not Harry 'hit the wall in my last 1000 free kicks' Kane.

Winksy has been taking some great corners lately, and if we gave Eric Dier a few more goes at free kicks, I think he would do better than Harry Kane - but imagine Ward Prowse in the team.
 

chrisd2k

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As I explained, there was a flurry of posts that were negged for no real reason, so I had a butchers and it was all you. So I sent a piss-take message.
Sometimes I get bored and like to keep an eye out for the Trolls.
Trolls lol. Double hard keyboard warrior you are?
 

chrisd2k

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I think you are arguing, just to argue. The primary point - no matter the terminology - he draws defenders out of position, and out of shape.

That opens up opportunities for other players - up to Traore to deliver, and for the other players to exploit the open holes in the defense. But, ultimately, that is the goal for any attacking system, either with movement or passing, to pull defenders out of position to create scoring chances.

Right now, we don't do a great job with off-the-ball movement or passing, so adding a player like Adama should provide something that we are missing from the attack.
No just one of those things that grinds my gears.

Anyway he's better than what we have at RWB and the fee isn't as ridiculous as it was in the summer.
 

Pamarot91

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Traore's goal last week was a very composed finish. I think given the correct environment he will showcase that he's better than people give him credit for.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Winksy has been taking some great corners lately, and if we gave Eric Dier a few more goes at free kicks, I think he would do better than Harry Kane - but imagine Ward Prowse in the team.
Yea agree Winks corners have been completely fine and so they should be professional footballing midfielder should be able to regularly hit a good whipped corner. Dier if he was regularly on free kicks could mabye do better than Kane but he's had a fair few goes and is never particularly threatening even if he is at least an improvement on Kane taking them but yea if we had a JWP taking them with the volume that we get he'd be getting us a good 5-6 extra direct goals a season I think and more goals in-direct from tasty deliveries.

Traore will win tons of free-kicks, we need to make the most of them.
 
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