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Youth player(s) you had high hopes for?

muppetman

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I watched a youth game against Barca at WHL and Pritchard was the best player on the pitch, genuinely thought he'd go on to great things but just doesn't seem to have quite happened for him.
 

BringBack_leGin

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At the time Tsaroulla I would say was on par with say what Dennis Cirkin is now and he was looking good, a year out of football is a very long time and the problem seemed to be that at the time they did not know what the problem was and Spurs decided to let him go.

I will say Spurs have backed players who have missed a lot of football over the years Rafferty Pedder has missed a lot of football and I have talked to a family member who was very happy with how Spurs have looked after Pedder, Rafferty Pedder was a hell of a player when he was very young but the injuries stopped him pushing on, Pedder at say 14 was one of our best players and even Marcus Edwards father would point him out as a player.

Pedder is fit now and playing he is not a starter every week with our u23s but without the injuries he might have been a hell of a lot better and I like the club stood by him because he is a good player to watch.

Jonathan Dinzeyi is a played I never got at any point and not being harsh but we could have let him go at age16 but we stuck by him for years and he missed more football than any player I have ever known at youth level apart from maybe Terry Dixon who was brilliant but would break down every time he played.

Sterling has missed a lot of football also over the years and he has never pushed on at any point but we have looked after him and Anthony Georgiou has got a contract every year and he is coming up 24.

Spurs on paper have done the right thing with Tsaroulla but at the time I would have liked to see us back him and maybe give him one more year like they have done with others players and even players that was not as good as Tsaroulla.

Very Happy to see him playing again and it is what football is all about.
I’m not an avid youth watcher so can’t comment on how good or not Tsaroulla was, personally I’d have taken great pride in a Cypriot boy breaking through, of course Townsend did and Edwards should have ( Roles send fated not to but we’ll see), but it just rankles me a little when a young player gives a ‘they didn’t do right by me’ Toure interview about us, same as Terry Dixon did. Unless we didn’t support him on the medical side, which by his own admission we did, I’m not sure how we should’ve acted differently. At 19 he really needs to be pushing on, it’s a shame if injuries prevented that rather than ability but that’s an age where we’ve got the next bunch of u18s getting closer to men’s football too, and very few young players who haven’t had a sniff of the first team by then actually turn it around and get through to the seniors. Even Mason, who was a relatively late bloomer, had some first xi exposure by then. Tanganga seems to be the exception rather than the role.

Frankly, if the player isn’t going to cut it with us but has a shot of making it elsewhere, I think it’s only fair to let him move on, he tried with Brentford but didn’t get past their reserves either, and now he’s at a decent level and if he’s good enough, has the chance to work his way up the leagues.

Imagine we’d kept him on until he was 21, then released him having made no breakthrough at all because of our relative strength in that position during his time at the club? That would be two years wasted for him without having broken through, and far slimmer chances of making it as a professional now.
Completely agree with KWP. Badly managed by Poch. Should have been given a longer run in the team when he first got in as he had some decent performances. One of his early bad games was Newport away in the cup. Could never understand why Poch played him at left back and a senior international Trippier at right back
KWP just seemed so intelligent and talented, I have have no idea how we fudged it but equally, I wouldn’t be shocked to see us go back for him at some point and I imagine if it was to be a forest team player he’d accept given that he’s a huge Spurs fan. In the meantime, at least he’s having a good career now while we at least got him to a stage where it allowed us to get Højbjerg. Thank God we finally gave him that long overdue loan!
 

dontcallme

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Yep. Remember him, Sol and Samways all came thru together, if I’m not mistaken.

Might be premature, but I am thus far disappointed with the trajectory of CCV’s career. Three years ago, I really thought he would evolve into a key starting CB for us. Sadly, it would appear that his overall standard of play is Championship. Would not be surprised to see him the MLS before long. Might be a better fit for him long term.
Pretty sure Samways is at least 5 years older than Sol and Caskey.
 

wishkah

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we had an english number 9 who was setting records in the u21's and reserves. it was before Kane and was around the time the likes of niel mellor banged that goal in for the pool. i thought we had a better version in the ranks and thought he would be a solid striker at england level. think we relaesed hiim at 22 and he floated around the lower leagues.

it will come to me.
 

mumfordspur

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Andros - a bit "head down and run the wing" but thought he would make it as I remember Ralph Coates doing the same early days at Spurs.
Thelwell was a great shout by others
for me I cant remember this guy's name could have been Spanish but I think he was a French CB nailed on success at Spurs
hopefully somebody will remember his name
 

edson

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I’m not an avid youth watcher so can’t comment on how good or not Tsaroulla was, personally I’d have taken great pride in a Cypriot boy breaking through, of course Townsend did and Edwards should have ( Roles send fated not to but we’ll see), but it just rankles me a little when a young player gives a ‘they didn’t do right by me’ Toure interview about us, same as Terry Dixon did. Unless we didn’t support him on the medical side, which by his own admission we did, I’m not sure how we should’ve acted differently. At 19 he really needs to be pushing on, it’s a shame if injuries prevented that rather than ability but that’s an age where we’ve got the next bunch of u18s getting closer to men’s football too, and very few young players who haven’t had a sniff of the first team by then actually turn it around and get through to the seniors. Even Mason, who was a relatively late bloomer, had some first xi exposure by then. Tanganga seems to be the exception rather than the role.

Frankly, if the player isn’t going to cut it with us but has a shot of making it elsewhere, I think it’s only fair to let him move on, he tried with Brentford but didn’t get past their reserves either, and now he’s at a decent level and if he’s good enough, has the chance to work his way up the leagues.

Imagine we’d kept him on until he was 21, then released him having made no breakthrough at all because of our relative strength in that position during his time at the club? That would be two years wasted for him without having broken through, and far slimmer chances of making it as a professional now.

KWP just seemed so intelligent and talented, I have have no idea how we fudged it but equally, I wouldn’t be shocked to see us go back for him at some point and I imagine if it was to be a forest team player he’d accept given that he’s a huge Spurs fan. In the meantime, at least he’s having a good career now while we at least got him to a stage where it allowed us to get Højbjerg. Thank God we finally gave him that long overdue loan!
Terry Dixon was told by specialists that he should quite football and he still played on for a good few years and even West ham still gave him a contract.

My point is that you would not let say Dennis Cirkin go if he was out for a year and as a club we have looked after players that have struggled a lot over the years.

No one is to blame it's football but we could have stood by Nick T like we did with others and I don't blame him for being gutted about being let go, he was a good player who was never a problem.
 

BringBack_leGin

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No one is to blame it's football but we could have stood by Nick T like we did with others and I don't blame him for being gutted about being let go, he was a good player who was never a problem.
Of course he’s gutted and he has every right to be. My only issue is that but for Spurs, he’d likely not even be a professional footballer at a decent level right now, and has we clung into him for longer then that could’ve been the death knell, so comments like that from the previous poster saying that this reflects badly on us and we should have done right by him just rankle with me, I don’t see what we’ve done particularly wrong.
 

DiamondLites

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Giovanni dos Santos ... if anyone remembers him. I thought he was destined to superstardom

Got him on my sky blue away shirt the summer we signed him. that went to the charity shop. I still watch the news hoping it to spot it in a war torn country or refugee camp, like a depressing Where’s Wally
 

newbie

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Terry Dixon was told by specialists that he should quite football and he still played on for a good few years and even West ham still gave him a contract.

My point is that you would not let say Dennis Cirkin go if he was out for a year and as a club we have looked after players that have struggled a lot over the years.

No one is to blame it's football but we could have stood by Nick T like we did with others and I don't blame him for being gutted about being let go, he was a good player who was never a problem.

Levy always seems a good guy whos a brutal businessman but has a good heart with spurs, John mc was a good guy as well, we have helped a lot of players over the years i would be surprised if there was not a good reason why he was let go, maybe it looked very unlikely he would recover fully, who knows either way sadly he has prob worked out better for him, it might have pushed him on harder to make a success. lets be honest we let go Reece Oxford, and Liverpool let get Alfie, football is a funny game and not an exact science.
 

edson

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Of course he’s gutted and he has every right to be. My only issue is that but for Spurs, he’d likely not even be a professional footballer at a decent level right now, and has we clung into him for longer then that could’ve been the death knell, so comments like that from the previous poster saying that this reflects badly on us and we should have done right by him just rankle with me, I don’t see what we’ve done particularly wrong.
If he was not at Spurs he would have been with some other club as a kid because he had talent at that age, Spurs are not to blame but we have backed other players at the same time that also missed a lot of football and some of them was not as good as him,this is all in the past now and he and Us have moved on and we now have Cirkin and Hackett so things are looking good.
 

edson

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Andros - a bit "head down and run the wing" but thought he would make it as I remember Ralph Coates doing the same early days at Spurs.
Thelwell was a great shout by others
for me I cant remember this guy's name could have been Spanish but I think he was a French CB nailed on success at Spurs
hopefully somebody will remember his name
Dorian Dervite ?
 

EssexSH27

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11 year old me was so convinced by Rohan Ricketts that he got his name and number on the back of that purple strip we used to have.
 

the yid

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I've flicked through the thread and I haven't seen Lee Barnard mentioned! That's who came to mind as soon as I saw this threads title! He scored 19 in 20 for the reserves
 

wirE

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Souleymane Coulibaly and Tomas Pekhart I remember as two prospects I had high hopes for. I think both were 'Golden boot' winners from FIFA U-17 World Cup when arriving. Pekhart early on was picked as the new Jan Koller and Coulibaly the new Didier Drogba.
 

Beni

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Nick Barmby was the one for me, came to us and was one of the hottest youngsters coming through at the time, and was formidable playing amongst Anderton, Sheringham and Klinsmann. Unfortunately decided to go back up north, and his career faded out.

Others for me, Gerry McMahon, Terry Dixon, Dean Parrott, Jon Bostock, Coulibally, Marcus Edwards, Reto Ziegler, Kevin Prince-Boateng, and finally Mounir El Hamdaoui who was such a skillful player and did pretty well afterwards in Holland.
 
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