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Youth player(s) you had high hopes for?

Frozen_Waffles

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Was convinced that John Bostock was gonna be an absolute worldie.

When I saw bostock, I actually thought he would struggle. I went to watch the youth team and he was a man (physically) against boys.

I made a huge mistake with Jamie O'Hara, I thought he would captain England.

I used to watch a bit of youth football, the ones who I really remember were Tom Carroll, Harry Kane and the most recent (years ago now) was kwp. The one I thought was really special was kwp.

I have never seen a player with such ridiculous technical ability at that level.

I got carried away a lot with bentaleb, I thought Edwards would rip it up.

I generally overhype a lot of spurs youngsters.
 

DCSPUR

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this article doesn't paint us in a good light - not sure why a billion pound enterprise just doesn't do the right thing in these instances.
Give the lad another contract for a year so he has time to focus on his health....after all we have seen players (Eriksen/ Ajax comes to mind) show loyalty by signing contracts to protect clubs. Doesn't seen like a big thing for the club but invaluable for the human in a fragile place:
 

BringBack_leGin

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this article doesn't paint us in a good light - not sure why a billion pound enterprise just doesn't do the right thing in these instances.
Give the lad another contract for a year so he has time to focus on his health....after all we have seen players (Eriksen/ Ajax comes to mind) show loyalty by signing contracts to protect clubs. Doesn't seen like a big thing for the club but invaluable for the human in a fragile place:
The right thing? Like continually provide him the best health care and medical expertise available to help him through recuperation from a severe trauma? Not sure what more were neat to have done if at 19, whatever the reason, he’s not looking like succeeding with us. Would you have seen Spurs offer him a five year deal?

I imagine that without the care he received as a result of being a Spurs player, he’d have never recovered enough, or quickly enough, to find himself fulfilling his ambitions and having his wonderful moment v Leeds on Saturday.
 

DCSPUR

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The right thing? Like continually provide him the best health care and medical expertise available to help him through recuperation from a severe trauma? Not sure what more were neat to have done if at 19, whatever the reason, he’s not looking like succeeding with us. Would you have seen Spurs offer him a five year deal?

I imagine that without the care he received as a result of being a Spurs player, he’d have never recovered enough, or quickly enough, to find himself fulfilling his ambitions and having his wonderful moment v Leeds on Saturday.

amazing that you can be that defensive about this:
Tsaroulla was 19, beset with problems in his abdomen and feet; seemingly on the scrapheap.

sorry but we just have a different world view. The kid had been with us since he was 12. Yes he deserved more. But as Keith said - there was a football club there once....
 

eddiebailey

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I thought Phil Ifil would win a hundred England caps. I suspect something happened behind the scenes, but then there was the loan at Millwall. On his return every time he received the ball he treated it like a unexploded bomb.
 

SpursSince1980

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Anyone remember Darren Caskey?
Yep. Remember him, Sol and Samways all came thru together, if I’m not mistaken.

Might be premature, but I am thus far disappointed with the trajectory of CCV’s career. Three years ago, I really thought he would evolve into a key starting CB for us. Sadly, it would appear that his overall standard of play is Championship. Would not be surprised to see him the MLS before long. Might be a better fit for him long term.
 

Geyzer Soze

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Giovanni dos Santos ... if anyone remembers him. I thought he was destined to superstardom
 

The Opinionated Lurker

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When he was first on the cusp of breaking through I thought Tom Carroll was going to be essentially what Eriksen became if not better.
Not all entirely their faults either (Poch has blood on his hands with these lot) but the usual suspects in Edwards, Onomah and KWP, they all still have time on their side and I think all will eventually come to a pretty good level in the footballing world, just annoying it won’t be with us.
 

The Opinionated Lurker

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Pritchard a big one for me I was convinced he was gonna be the next Eriksen.

Also Edwards of course.
Might just be me but does anyone else remember a moment in Pritchard’s first premier league game for us where Eriksen could’ve slid him through late in the game but IIRC he took a shot and the chance was wasted? I think Pritchard’s career with us could’ve gone v differently had he had that chance but maybe he was just never the level we need
 

BringBack_leGin

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amazing that you can be that defensive about this:
Tsaroulla was 19, beset with problems in his abdomen and feet; seemingly on the scrapheap.

sorry but we just have a different world view. The kid had been with us since he was 12. Yes he deserved more. But as Keith said - there was a football club there once....
So what should we have done?
 

'O Zio

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Danny Rose. Yes he had some good seasons for us, but nothing quite matched his debut goal against the scum. I know he has his demons, but I think with the right manager at the right time, he could really have made the England LB position his own. Had he hit his potential, we probably would have lost him to Real Madrid!

To be fair he spent most of his career in the starting 11 for one of the top 6 teams in the self-titled "best league in the world" so I don't think you can really say he never made it.

I know it's popular (and easy) to slag him off nowadays but for the final couple of seasons at WHL he was the best LWB in the PL and arguably up there with the best in Europe at his role. Not really sure how you can count him amongst the promising academy players who made a sub appearance in the cup then ended up playing at Kettering or some shite.
 

edson

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amazing that you can be that defensive about this:
Tsaroulla was 19, beset with problems in his abdomen and feet; seemingly on the scrapheap.

sorry but we just have a different world view. The kid had been with us since he was 12. Yes he deserved more. But as Keith said - there was a football club there once....
At the time Tsaroulla I would say was on par with say what Dennis Cirkin is now and he was looking good, a year out of football is a very long time and the problem seemed to be that at the time they did not know what the problem was and Spurs decided to let him go.

I will say Spurs have backed players who have missed a lot of football over the years Rafferty Pedder has missed a lot of football and I have talked to a family member who was very happy with how Spurs have looked after Pedder, Rafferty Pedder was a hell of a player when he was very young but the injuries stopped him pushing on, Pedder at say 14 was one of our best players and even Marcus Edwards father would point him out as a player.

Pedder is fit now and playing he is not a starter every week with our u23s but without the injuries he might have been a hell of a lot better and I like the club stood by him because he is a good player to watch.

Jonathan Dinzeyi is a played I never got at any point and not being harsh but we could have let him go at age16 but we stuck by him for years and he missed more football than any player I have ever known at youth level apart from maybe Terry Dixon who was brilliant but would break down every time he played.

Sterling has missed a lot of football also over the years and he has never pushed on at any point but we have looked after him and Anthony Georgiou has got a contract every year and he is coming up 24.

Spurs on paper have done the right thing with Tsaroulla but at the time I would have liked to see us back him and maybe give him one more year like they have done with others players and even players that was not as good as Tsaroulla.

Very Happy to see him playing again and it is what football is all about.
 

JimmyG2

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KWP. Mishandled criminally. Making it elsewhere and may rise to England status yet

Others seem to fall into 2 broad categories.
1) Players that were misjudged by many who never really had what we thought they had.
2) Players that may well have had it but through circumstances, events, , or their own personal failings got side-tracked.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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never saw it with bentaleb, don't think he ever had a huge amount in his locker. best performance was at rb imo.
I agree. One of the starkest examples of fans running away with delusion. A case of emperors new clothing for me. However, I also think that his attitude let him down and ultimately brought him were he is today. He is 26 now and doesn't even have a contract yet beyond this summer.
 

fingersinc

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KWP. Mishandled criminally. Making it elsewhere and may rise to England status yet

Others seem to fall into 2 broad categories.
1) Players that were misjudged by many who never really had what we thought they had.
2) Players that may well have had it but through circumstances, events, , or their own personal failings got side-tracked.

Completely agree with KWP. Badly managed by Poch. Should have been given a longer run in the team when he first got in as he had some decent performances. One of his early bad games was Newport away in the cup. Could never understand why Poch played him at left back and a senior international Trippier at right back
 

punkisback

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The youth player I had highest hopes for did actually break through but, sadly, not for long.

Garry Brooke wasn't the most svelte player we ever had on our books. Indeed, the Swedish club who took him on loan as a kid called him 'Buddha'. Yet for a couple of seasons in the early eighties, he really didn't look out of place in what was a very fine midfield indeed.

Sadly for him, and indeed for us as I think he'd have gone on to be a very decent player, he was involved in a really bad car crash in the 1982-83 season. He'd just turned 22 and, although he came back the following season and played a few more games for us, he never truly recovered his form or fitness. Bloody shame.
Did really good work for the club as a youth scout / coach. Trained underneath him a few times and he scouted and trained quite a few players such as Terry Dixon etc.
 
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