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CantSmileWithoutYou

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United to improve on their 40m initial offer apparently. Is he worth it? I'd go 50m for him, just walkers money with more years ahead of him.

United still being linked with Toby and Maguire. Not a bad defence...

De gea

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Wouldn't concede many...:(
 

DJS

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Another thing I’ve been wrestling about is whether would be worth a shot going for Clyne?

Awesome right back before his injury and seemed to get back to his best for Bournemouth last season.

Only other thing is think he’s been in trouble with zee law lately so could be a bit of a naughty boy, but then a lot of footballers are hardly angels...
 

DJS

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United to improve on their 40m initial offer apparently. Is he worth it? I'd go 50m for him, just walkers money with more years ahead of him.

United still being linked with Toby and Maguire. Not a bad defence...

De gea

AWB Maguire Toby Shaw

Wouldn't concede many...:(

Might do if they don’t get the more defensive midfielders in front of them sorted.
 

rossdapep

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It's clear our priorities lie in the CM/AM roles (Ndombele, Lo Celso) which means spending 60m of our funds (which we need for other pressing areas) ain't happening.

We can't afford to be reckless. AWB may go on to be an incredible RB but I'd much rather be strong in CM/AM. Considering some of our other links (Atal, Aarons, Semedo) may be gettable for half that and could still turn out to be very good options for us then we'd be making the right decision to drop out.
 

bbunc

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But transfer price inflation will make this sort of comparison obsolete soon.

Agreed. Heck, it might not even be the 3rd most expensive defender this window depending on what happens with de ligt, McGuire and koulibaly.

It’s trippier plus Aurier plus 20M. That’s a no brainer in my opinion. The best or 2nd best RB in the league who happens to be a 21 year old homegrown player.

At the very least, we should bid 50M just to screw with United.
 

Montalbano

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RB is our weakest area alongside CM imo and has been since Walker left. Opposition clearly targets the right of our defense every game. If we're willing to off our first and second choice RB it will be a shame if we don't get someone who can really do us a job (i.e. AWB)

If he goes for around 50m I'm sure we could nearly cash flow Aurier and Trippier for AWB. Isn't this the ambition Poch talked about?!?
 

rossdapep

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RB is our weakest area alongside CM imo and has been since Walker left. Opposition clearly targets the right of our defense every game. If we're willing to off our first and second choice RB it will be a shame if we don't get someone who can really do us a job (i.e. AWB)

If he goes for around 50m I'm sure we could nearly cash flow Aurier and Trippier for AWB. Isn't this the ambition Poch talked about?!?
It's a tough one though. Ndombele, Lo Celso and AWB departs us of around £180m. Now I don't know what our intentions are or know how much we are willing to spend this summer but spending too much on one player may effect what we do elsewhere (ITK has repeatedly told us this). We'd likely still want the Sessegnon bros, another attacking option, a CB and maybe a DM. That could push our spending up close to £300m and we may not get anything close to that in returns.

Let's say Poch's priorities are, in order of importance CM - AM - FBs - CB (if Toby goes) - ATT, then we have to make a sacrifice on one of our primary targets in one of these positions and it certainly won't/shoudnt be CM/AM.
 

Montalbano

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It's a tough one though. Ndombele, Lo Celso and AWB departs us of around £180m. Now I don't know what our intentions are or know how much we are willing to spend this summer but spending too much on one player may effect what we do elsewhere (ITK has repeatedly told us this). We'd likely still want the Sessegnon bros, another attacking option, a CB and maybe a DM. That could push our spending up close to £300m and we may not get anything close to that in returns.

Let's say Poch's priorities are, in order of importance CM - AM - FBs - CB (if Toby goes) - ATT, then we have to make a sacrifice on one of our primary targets in one of these positions and it certainly won't/shoudnt be CM/AM.

I would be disappointed if we sell Trippier and Aurier and a starting RB doesn't take priority over the Sess twins, who are very unlikely to make our starting XI.
If we pay more than 30m for the Sess twins, and therefore miss out on a top class RB or CM, I think we're playing our cards wrong. Look how Liverpool did it, they bought players who they knew were going to get straight into their XI when they lost Coutinho.
For me order of importance should be CM - FB - ATT - CB
I'd get a world class CM (Ndombele), CM/AM playmaker (Ndombele), and RB (AWB) then worry about plugging the squad depth with cheaper players. It seems clear Poch wants to improve the starting XI, and if Eriksen, Toby, and Trippier leave, we need to replace them. Luckily we already have an amazing CB to replace Toby in Sanchez.
CM: Ndombele, Lo Celso (doubles as AM)
FB: AWB, S. Sess
ATT: Ryan Sess, (another forward if funds available [i.e. Clarke])
CB: Use dier, davies as squad options
Theoretically we should be able to sign Ndombele, Lo Celso, AWB, and Sess twins if we off Eriksen and our unwanted squad players if some of our reported targets are signed and reported outgoings occur:
IN:
Ndombele 65m
Lo Celso 65m
AWB 50m
Ryan Sessegnon 25m
Steven Sessegnon 5m
Clarke 10m
-220m

OUT:
TRIPS 30m
Janssen 10m
Nkoudou 5m
VORM FREE
Llorente FREE
DEMBELE (10M) - SOLD
Aurier 20m
Wanyama 15m
CCV (5m)
Onomah (5m)
Toby 25m
Eriksen 75m
+200m
 

whatislifewithoutspurs

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United to improve on their 40m initial offer apparently. Is he worth it? I'd go 50m for him, just walkers money with more years ahead of him.

United still being linked with Toby and Maguire. Not a bad defence...

De gea

AWB Maguire Toby Shaw

Wouldn't concede many...:(

Of course you wouldnt concede when you have spiderman defending your goal
 

rossdapep

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I would be disappointed if we sell Trippier and Aurier and a starting RB doesn't take priority over the Sess twins, who are very unlikely to make our starting XI.
If we pay more than 30m for the Sess twins, and therefore miss out on a top class RB or CM, I think we're playing our cards wrong. Look how Liverpool did it, they bought players who they knew were going to get straight into their XI when they lost Coutinho.
For me order of importance should be CM - FB - ATT - CB
I'd get a world class CM (Ndombele), CM/AM playmaker (Ndombele), and RB (AWB) then worry about plugging the squad depth with cheaper players. It seems clear Poch wants to improve the starting XI, and if Eriksen, Toby, and Trippier leave, we need to replace them. Luckily we already have an amazing CB to replace Toby in Sanchez.
CM: Ndombele, Lo Celso (doubles as AM)
FB: AWB, S. Sess
ATT: Ryan Sess, (another forward if funds available [i.e. Clarke])
CB: Use dier, davies as squad options
Theoretically we should be able to sign Ndombele, Lo Celso, AWB, and Sess twins if we off Eriksen and our unwanted squad players if some of our reported targets are signed and reported outgoings occur:
IN:
Ndombele 65m
Lo Celso 65m
AWB 50m
Ryan Sessegnon 25m
Steven Sessegnon 5m
Clarke 10m
-220m

OUT:
TRIPS 30m
Janssen 10m
Nkoudou 5m
VORM FREE
Llorente FREE
DEMBELE (10M) - SOLD
Aurier 20m
Wanyama 15m
CCV (5m)
Onomah (5m)
Toby 25m
Eriksen 75m
+200m
I hear what youre saying but I think Poch wants both and we don't necessarily need to spend 50-60 on AWB to achieve getting two dynamic full backs either side we could then become more rounded elsewhere too.

I think you may be overvaluing a few on their as I can't see Eriksen going for 75, trip for 30 and I think we'd be lucky to get more than 10 for Vic. But well see
 

doctor stefan Freud

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I would be disappointed if we sell Trippier and Aurier and a starting RB doesn't take priority over the Sess twins, who are very unlikely to make our starting XI.
If we pay more than 30m for the Sess twins, and therefore miss out on a top class RB or CM, I think we're playing our cards wrong. Look how Liverpool did it, they bought players who they knew were going to get straight into their XI when they lost Coutinho.
For me order of importance should be CM - FB - ATT - CB
I'd get a world class CM (Ndombele), CM/AM playmaker (Ndombele), and RB (AWB) then worry about plugging the squad depth with cheaper players. It seems clear Poch wants to improve the starting XI, and if Eriksen, Toby, and Trippier leave, we need to replace them. Luckily we already have an amazing CB to replace Toby in Sanchez.
CM: Ndombele, Lo Celso (doubles as AM)
FB: AWB, S. Sess
ATT: Ryan Sess, (another forward if funds available [i.e. Clarke])
CB: Use dier, davies as squad options
Theoretically we should be able to sign Ndombele, Lo Celso, AWB, and Sess twins if we off Eriksen and our unwanted squad players if some of our reported targets are signed and reported outgoings occur:
IN:
Ndombele 65m
Lo Celso 65m
AWB 50m
Ryan Sessegnon 25m
Steven Sessegnon 5m
Clarke 10m
-220m

OUT:
TRIPS 30m
Janssen 10m
Nkoudou 5m
VORM FREE
Llorente FREE
DEMBELE (10M) - SOLD
Aurier 20m
Wanyama 15m
CCV (5m)
Onomah (5m)
Toby 25m
Eriksen 75m
+200m
I think your valuations of Trips, Janssen, Aurier, Wanyama, and even Eriksen are probably too high- I’d be surprised if we (a) sold this many players (b) at these prices (c) and replaced the baulk of them (d) in the very limited amount of time- approximately 8 weeks- left to do business.

Just can’t see it happening
 

daryl hannah

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I would be disappointed if we sell Trippier and Aurier and a starting RB doesn't take priority over the Sess twins, who are very unlikely to make our starting XI.
If we pay more than 30m for the Sess twins, and therefore miss out on a top class RB or CM, I think we're playing our cards wrong. Look how Liverpool did it, they bought players who they knew were going to get straight into their XI when they lost Coutinho.
For me order of importance should be CM - FB - ATT - CB
I'd get a world class CM (Ndombele), CM/AM playmaker (Ndombele), and RB (AWB) then worry about plugging the squad depth with cheaper players. It seems clear Poch wants to improve the starting XI, and if Eriksen, Toby, and Trippier leave, we need to replace them. Luckily we already have an amazing CB to replace Toby in Sanchez.
CM: Ndombele, Lo Celso (doubles as AM)
FB: AWB, S. Sess
ATT: Ryan Sess, (another forward if funds available [i.e. Clarke])
CB: Use dier, davies as squad options
Theoretically we should be able to sign Ndombele, Lo Celso, AWB, and Sess twins if we off Eriksen and our unwanted squad players if some of our reported targets are signed and reported outgoings occur:
IN:
Ndombele 65m
Lo Celso 65m
AWB 50m
Ryan Sessegnon 25m
Steven Sessegnon 5m
Clarke 10m
-220m

OUT:
TRIPS 30m
Janssen 10m
Nkoudou 5m
VORM FREE
Llorente FREE
DEMBELE (10M) - SOLD
Aurier 20m
Wanyama 15m
CCV (5m)
Onomah (5m)
Toby 25m
Eriksen 75m
+200m
Dier 40m
Rose 35m
+275m
 

nailsy

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Agreed. Heck, it might not even be the 3rd most expensive defender this window depending on what happens with de ligt, McGuire and koulibaly.

It’s trippier plus Aurier plus 20M. That’s a no brainer in my opinion. The best or 2nd best RB in the league who happens to be a 21 year old homegrown player.

At the very least, we should bid 50M just to screw with United.

That only works if Poch thinks KWP is ready to step up as 2nd choice RB and even then it's a bit of a gamble having two young and pretty inexperienced players in that position.
 

Ron Burgundy

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If it's of any interest, odds on his next club at the moment are (approximately):
Utd: 1/4
City: 8/1
Us: 12/1
 

cider spurs

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Don't get me wrong, I'd love AWB to come to Spurs.

But... stating just sell Trippier and Aurier to fund, might not be as easy as some think.

Firstly, do either wish to leave, is an acceptable offer going to be made. Does AWB actually want to come to Spurs ( of course he does (y) ) is KWP ready as a back up/rotation. etc,etc.

Far too simplistic to just say sell two, buy one. The thinking might be spot on, the actuality might be harder to deliver.
 
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