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One thing we can be sure of in the football world of cliches and boring sound bites is that Danny Rose speaks his mind.

His recent comments on the Board needing to listen to Poch and back him confirms that to date they haven’t really done so. Combine this with Poch’s own comments and frustrations last summer and his need for clarity going forward shows the reality.

Levy continues to concern me. Yes his reputation as a tough negotiator can benefit Spurs but similarly closes so many doors. I see nothing changing in his approach.
 
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Poch f*cked up with those comments. He should have kept them to himself. I wonder if Klopp is being linked elsewhere even if he fails a 2nd time of asking in the final.

I hold on to the thought that it was a clever ploy to create a distraction..... but then he said them on the eve of a semi final.
 
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piedpiper said:
Poch f*cked up with those comments. He should have kept them to himself. I wonder if Klopp is being linked elsewhere even if he fails a 2nd time of asking in the final.

I hold on to the thought that it was a clever ploy to create a distraction..... but then he said them on the eve of a semi final.
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It isnt his presser creating the headlines, but all subsequent media appearances. I fully believe there is a ploy. Whether he fucked up remains to be seen.
 
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HW61 said:
One thing we can be sure of in the football world of cliches and boring sound bites is that Danny Rose speaks his mind.

His recent comments on the Board needing to listen to Poch and back him confirms that to date they haven’t really done so. Combine this with Poch’s own comments and frustrations last summer and his need for clarity going forward shows the reality.

Levy continues to concern me. Yes his reputation as a tough negotiator can benefit Spurs but similarly closes so many doors. I see nothing changing in his approach.
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Levy's a businessman who deals with firm objectives.
His was to get the stadium built, Poch's was to deliver CL football into that stadium.
Both have delivered.

In order for Levy to provide continuous growth for his 'business' he needs to improve commercial income and Poch is only left with winning a title (or coming close like Liverpool).
As commercial income is closely related to success on the pitch their objectives should be aligned so I would expect a completely different strategy going forward.

There is an alternative where Levy's next objective would be delivering the developments of Stadium flats/Hotel, Goods in yard development, Tottenham way, lobbying the local council to push on with transport improvements etc, as well as growing the stadium income (these projects would help each other).
And Poch's would be to simply continue the status quo with top four and limited investment as funds are diverted to the property business.

However, I would be very surprised if Levy didn't want both, and I would expect a strong investment in young players this Summer to look to deliver a genuine title challenging team in five years time (or sooner).
My only question mark would be Poch's patience. Does he still want five years of developing another team when he could go elsewhere and possibly deliver straight away. Against the opportunity to spend 10 years here (and become a club legend like Wenger/Fergie etc) to be in a position of spending what he likes (our income will be close to United levels once the stadium is paid off, the stadium income has matured, and commercial deals have improved from 9 consecutive years of CL).
 
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Both Liverpool and Spurs are bigger clubs now than Juventus and this fact will be reinforced over the next 3 or 4 seasons.

No disrespect to the Old Lady of Italy, but the PL is where it's at right now.
 
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Archibald&Crooks said:
He was linked to Juventus a few days ago.
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Okay.. Must say I haven't seen it. I can imagine a few managers would be linked to them. I don't mind Poch being linked just his comments adding fuel to those rumours .

I've reached the point of what will be will be.
 
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In the end of the day he's under contract with no escape clause. Levy holds all the aces and should just tell him he ain't going anywhere irrelevant.

He could resign yes, but he's not going to do that because of the money he's on. How many managers resign these days especially with four years left on contract?
 
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Zoltar60 said:
In the end of the day he's under contract with no escape clause. Levy holds all the aces and should just tell him he ain't going anywhere irrelevant.

He could resign yes, but he's not going to do that because of the money he's on. How many managers resign these days especially with four years left on contract?
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I would hazard a guess it would be because he's an honourable man more so than the money..
Anyway he'd earn far more at some of the other clubs.
 
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longtimespur said:
I would hazard a guess it would be because he's an honourable man more so than the money..
Anyway he'd earn far more at some of the other clubs.
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Yes he could. My point was though that technically if he resigned he may not get a penny yet still not be able to manage another club until his contract finishes if levy wanted.
 
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Zoltar60 said:
Yes he could. My point was though that technically if he resigned he may not get a penny yet still not be able to manage another club until his contract finishes if levy wanted.
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Can you name one manager of any significance who has failed to move straight into another job after resigning from his existing job unless they have chosen to take a break from football ? Contracts are worthless where managers are concerned except for the manager concerned who can insist on being paid if his contract is terminated.
 
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Zoltar60 said:
Yes he could. My point was though that technically if he resigned he may not get a penny yet still not be able to manage another club until his contract finishes if levy wanted.
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I understand what you are saying regarding a new position and wouldn't disagree as it may well be correct, I'm not in the know regarding his contract.
My point was that he appears to be an honourable man and wouldn't walk out of his contract.
 
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longtimespur said:
I understand what you are saying regarding a new position and wouldn't disagree as it may well be correct, I'm not in the know regarding his contract.
My point was that he appears to be an honourable man and wouldn't walk out of his contract.
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Agreed. Which is another reason Spurs fans need to calm down a bit and be less worried. Personally I think he wants to stay anyway, just want some more funds to close the gap on Liverpool and city. I'd be surprised if he's not giving a decent amount (in comparison to the last 5 years anyway).
 
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