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thefierycamel

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Still need to be careful with the english potential thing. If we want HG we could actually just give our own academy players a proper chance. Some of these kids aren't much older than what we have already in our own ranks. KWP, Jack Roles needs a proper go, Edwards could come back, Sam Shashoua is another. Then there's obviously the next group underneath these guys who are absolutely ripping up trees all over the place, albeit they're all fairly young at this point. I'm not saying don't buy english players, but we do have to remember that we have our own lads to look after too
 

Shadydan

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Still need to be careful with the english potential thing. If we want HG we could actually just give our own academy players a proper chance. Some of these kids aren't much older than what we have already in our own ranks. KWP, Jack Roles needs a proper go, Edwards could come back, Sam Shashoua is another. Then there's obviously the next group underneath these guys who are absolutely ripping up trees all over the place, albeit they're all fairly young at this point. I'm not saying don't buy english players, but we do have to remember that we have our own lads to look after too

Poch will know when they're ready to be promoted and play, he has shown huge faith in Skipp recently for example so I wouldn't worry about it, if they're good enough they'll get a chance.
 

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  1. The De Jong situation, from his mouth, proves we are willing to do what it takes to get the best... however as it turns out players have minds too and if they decide ‘actually, another good six months could see me sign for Barca‘ there’s little we can do other than throw even more money at it, which would be nuts.
  2. Wan Bissaka maybe doesn’t track back enough now, under AVB Rose didn’t at all.
  3. Walker-Peters clearly has both ability and awareness, and enough pace, with game time this will improve.
  4. We looked at Maddison, we wanted Grealish. If Villa fail to go up and we get Grealish it’ll have been a brilliant choice.


In the case of deJong, I'd say the outcome was really pretty predictable. Once Barca or RM show interest we should really be going all out on a viable plan B. I don't know how feasible it is to set time frames in player negitiations but I'd have thought there was some value in saying to a player 'You have until x date and then we're moving on'. All too often we get within touching distance and then get blown out of the water and there's no time for a contingency.
 

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I'm 100% certain we'll be signing a few in the Summer. My concern is that we'll, yet again, be faffing around as deadline day approaches having passed up the opportunity to get some quality deals done early in the window. We're not, IMO, ready to go head to head with the mega clubs on the top flight players. That will be even more obvious if we don't get CL. I also think Levy has to soften his stance a bit with agents like Mendes and Raiola. It's just an unpleasant fact that they have a lot of quality players on their books who enable them to demand ridiculous fees. It's part and parcel of dining at the top table, or aspiring to.

I would absolutely cream myself if we could just get one deal over the line before the window even opens, that kind of business sets the tone for the rest of the window. We won't, but I'd be over the moon if we did.
 

LeParisien

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That's ok, the perception of Ligue 1 isn't that great over here either and I don't see any french clubs in the CL QF's so they just need to catch up a bit and recognise Spurs for the club that they are.
Nice bravado but that won’t help Spurs more attractive to players abroad. This isn’t about being right or wrong - it’s about perception.

Telling Ndombele to « catch up a bit » won’t see him sign for us ...
 

JonnySpurs

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I'm 100% certain we'll be signing a few in the Summer. My concern is that we'll, yet again, be faffing around as deadline day approaches having passed up the opportunity to get some quality deals done early in the window. We're not, IMO, ready to go head to head with the mega clubs on the top flight players. That will be even more obvious if we don't get CL. I also think Levy has to soften his stance a bit with agents like Mendes and Raiola. It's just an unpleasant fact that they have a lot of quality players on their books who enable them to demand ridiculous fees. It's part and parcel of dining at the top table, or aspiring to.

Have to agree, I'm certain we'll make a number of signings this summer and have no concerns about another window like the last 2. I can see why no signings have been made previously - I don't agree with it - but can see how/why it happened.

That ship has sailed now and it's time to kick it up a notch. We need to make AT LEAST one major signing complemented by some clever, astute signings to flesh out the squad and have better rotation options. If it means that we have to do business with some super agents that we don't particularly like dealing with or dont really want to pay their fees then maybe it's time to get on with it through gritted teeth.
 

SpartanSpur

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Have to agree, I'm certain we'll make a number of signings this summer and have no concerns about another window like the last 2. I can see why no signings have been made previously - I don't agree with it - but can see how/why it happened.

That ship has sailed now and it's time to kick it up a notch. We need to make AT LEAST one major signing complemented by some clever, astute signings to flesh out the squad and have better rotation options. If it means that we have to do business with some super agents that we don't particularly like dealing with or dont really want to pay their fees then maybe it's time to get on with it through gritted teeth.

I believe this is what we did when Bale left. However back then we had Baldini greasing the wheels.

I'm hopeful Levy will be in this kinda mood this summer. Understandable that the stadium project took his focus away last year but there's no such excuses now, especially if naming rights are sorted before the window opens.
 

JonnySpurs

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Nice bravado but that won’t help Spurs more attractive to players abroad. This isn’t about being right or wrong - it’s about perception.

Telling Ndombele to « catch up a bit » won’t see him sign for us ...

I respect your opinion but equally (unless you have quotes) I'm not sure that any of us are well placed enough to know how french players are thinking. I would be ASTONISHED if N'Dombele - having not too long ago been playing in Ligue 2 - isn't intrigued by the draw of the premier league and more specifically earning big money at Spurs alongside his national team captain in our beautiful new stadium.

In terms of the catching up a bit that was more aimed at french fans/pundits rather than players as you made it sound like the view from france was more general than specifically french players view.
 

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Call me crazy but no thanks on Kroos. Yes he has the technical ability but his legs are completely gone with regards to running and speed. No chance in my mind he could play the Poch system.

Actually this is what often happen to players at big clubs like Real M.: they're pushed to the limits, and even over the limits, and that is when they sell them - the club knows they're "past" it physically (and often mentally as well).
 
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DanielCHillier

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Given that Utd desperately need a RB, I can't see us getting AWB. However I've watched Norwich a few times this season and Max Aarons has been brilliant for them, obviously not guaranteed that he'd be able to make the step up and with Norwich almost certain to be promoted they'd be wanting a fair whack to let him leave, I wonder if Trippier going the other way would work.
 

SpartanSpur

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Given that Utd desperately need a RB, I can't see us getting AWB. However I've watched Norwich a few times this season and Max Aarons has been brilliant for them, obviously not guaranteed that he'd be able to make the step up and with Norwich almost certain to be promoted they'd be wanting a fair whack to let him leave, I wonder if Trippier going the other way would work.

Was in the papers at the weekend that Utd are backing off on AWB. They are impressed in Dalot and are said to be considering Meunier from PSG.

I'd say the other team in Manchester are a bigger threat. Plus I'd imagine if Tripps went anywhere it'd be up north.
 

LeParisien

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I respect your opinion but equally (unless you have quotes) I'm not sure that any of us are well placed enough to know how french players are thinking. I would be ASTONISHED if N'Dombele - having not too long ago been playing in Ligue 2 - isn't intrigued by the draw of the premier league and more specifically earning big money at Spurs alongside his national team captain in our beautiful new stadium.

In terms of the catching up a bit that was more aimed at french fans/pundits rather than players as you made it sound like the view from france was more general than specifically french players view.
I can’t give quotes. I can only tell you as a Frenchman living in France what the general mood is. Spurs’ reputation here is as a fantastic place to develop and a club that plays football the right way. It is not held in as high esteem as the rest of the top 6 yet, but that is changing. Remember that we are the only team in the top 6 not to win anything this decade and this is our first CL QF in a while...

Spurs are a very attractive choice but the competition in terms of prestige and money is intense in the PL and that’s before we factor in other foreign teams ...
 

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In the case of deJong, I'd say the outcome was really pretty predictable. Once Barca or RM show interest we should really be going all out on a viable plan B. I don't know how feasible it is to set time frames in player negitiations but I'd have thought there was some value in saying to a player 'You have until x date and then we're moving on'. All too often we get within touching distance and then get blown out of the water and there's no time for a contingency.
In this specific case, I think it was Rabiot. Then his dad died...
 

Carson35

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I just want Havertz, N'Dombele and AWB...for other positions that need to be upgraded, I would settle for anyone. but unfortunately, those 3 could cost us 200m.
 

Carson35

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I think if we're shrewd there are players out there who could offer good value for money. Players like Diawara and Berge in CM and Andersen at CB would probably be in our range. Further forward there's Brandt and Kruse who should be gettable. Grimaldo and Meunier would be rather nice but expensive and therefore probably unrealistic. In England there are the likes of Jack Clarke, Harvey Barnes, Lloyd Kelly etc. who probably wouldn't break the bank and then in the next expense bracket, Grealsih, Sessegnon and Brookes. I think we obviously have to pick up a HG goalkeeper which shouldn't be too much of a problem. I don't expect us to be spending big on players like N'Dombele and deLigt though.

de Ligt will either go to Barca or Bayern. we have no chance to get him.
 

hellava_tough

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You need to keep in mind that its not always our decision where a given player ends up.

I have said it before, there are plenty of factors to consider when it comes to transfers in football. As hard as it may be to believe, it is not always our decisions that cause a player to not sign for us.

Maddison for example wanted guaranteed first team minutes, we couldn't guarantee that therefore he signed for Leicester, a team that could. Same can be said for Brooks. We had concrete interest in these players but could not offer the terms they wanted. These things happen.

This mentality that it is always our fault that transfers don't go through is honestly becoming laughable.

I think this idea is somewhat overstated.

All players at some point in their careers want to take a step up and sign for a big club; to test their ability with the very best in the game.

One way is to gradually develop and move from club to club, working their way up the footballing 'food-chain', so to speak.

But others, like Dele, will take their chance when a big club comes knocking, even if they're not guaranteed a starting place in the first XI.

It's easy to see why; they'll be getting paid a lot more, playing and learning with very good players, enjoying better facilities, playing in the Champions League, but most of all training week-in, week-out, under the nose of a manager who could promote you into a regular starting place. Essentially, if you have the talent and the coach spots it, then you won't need to make further transfer moves to get to a CL club, because you're already at one.

Basically, there are different ways to progress in a career and I'm sure there are plenty of young players who would sign for us even if that meant starting in a 'squad' role.
 

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There's nothing extraordinary right now. Palacios is the only one. Maybe Matias Vargas,. Pedro de la Vega if you want a wonderkid for the academy
But I feel the difference in style and pace between the leagues mean they will take too much time to adapt

Just wondering what do you think of Lautaro Martinez...I know Inter won't sell but he seems to be a pretty good player...
 

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I think both players will end up going for less than those figures quoted (probably closer to £50m). Pepe looks fantastic but I'd be stunned if anyone went that high, would be a big gamble IMHO. The Ndombele article pretty much hints that that was a January 'hands off' price that may come down in future.

If Ndombele goes for more than Frenkie De Jong (75m EUR) that wouldn't sit right.
 
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