The Spurs Transfer Wishlist & Scouting Thread

-Afri-Coy- · Apr 11, 2019

sunnydelight786 said:
Nail on head Sir..... Some of our fans really do make me wonder. Going all teeny boppers on a player "doing it" in the the Championship. His buyout clause, when he signed his new contract last Sep, is bids in excess of £45m. Let that figure sink the fuck in for a minute....

We have a limited budget, surely the money should be spent on proper quality as opposed to on a player who still has it all to prove with the "English player" tax added to his price.

That £45 Million is pretty much the same amount I mentioned earlier for the ENTIRE Ajax starting 11 that played against Juventus last night. On the flip side of the coin, Man City’s 11 that lost to us cost £400+ million to put together, and £1.2 Billion since the Sheik took over.

Money simply doesn’t guarantee success or good players just because they cost a fortune.

It’s staggering the amount of money some fans expect us to spend just for the sake of signing new players. It’s about doing smart business not just business in general.

I’d love for us to have an exceptional scouting department like Ajax or Dortmund where we sign potential for reasonable fees. It hasn’t worked out too bad for them has it?

I know there are good arguments for both sides, but my personal opinion would be to scout properly and sign players who will not only improve us but not break the bank either. As tough as that is too achieve.

Shadydan · Apr 11, 2019

sunnydelight786 said:
Nail on head Sir..... Some of our fans really do make me wonder. Going all teeny boppers on a player "doing it" in the the Championship. His buyout clause, when he signed his new contract last Sep, is bids in excess of £45m. Let that figure sink the fuck in for a minute....

We have a limited budget, surely the money should be spent on proper quality as opposed to on a player who still has it all to prove with the "English player" tax added to his price.

If It's a player that Poch wants we need to get him, we're not gonna go down thus route of looking for bargains again because it hasn't worked since Dele, all Poch is gonna do is reject them like he did last year.

Do or die this summer, it's as simple as that.

-Afri-Coy- · Apr 11, 2019

Shadydan said:
If It's a player that Poch wants we need to get him, we're not gonna go down thus route of looking for bargains again because it hasn't worked since Dele, all Poch is gonna do is reject them like he did last year.

Do or die this summer, it's as simple as that.

My biggest fear is we have come to a bridge with the club and Poch that we may not be able to cross together.

If he isn't backed in the way he feels he deserves to be backed during the transfer window I wouldn't be surprised to see him walk away.

That would be a tragedy as Poch has done absolute wonders with our team, and I believe he deserves to have the final say when it comes to transfers and targets. Give the man what he wants, no matter the cost.

It could be the difference between us winning trophies/titles under Poch or the team regressing and Poch walking away from the project. Which would obviously have a serious effect on our ability to retain the spine of our team.

Interesting times ahead for us.

Dharmabum · Apr 11, 2019

ToDarrenIsToDo said:
I see what you're saying but just because a player doesn't play for his country doesn't mean he isn't any good. Laporte, Lenglet & Rabiot aren't fancied by Deschamps and all have the talent to play at the highest level. I know a couple of those are rumoured to be bad apples but it's sometimes an international managers preference as a person that determines why someone is chosen and not.

I think Andersen has the strength & height to compliment Sanchez & Foyth long term. I think it would be a really lovely mix of class, elegance, speed and brawn. Just my personal preference though

True, there are cases like - f.ex Hoddle, who would have been a regular for any other national team, was not a regular for England.
However, there is a difference in the case between Laporte & Lenglet vs that of Andersen: France, as we all know I (at least I presume so) won the WC last summer, so it's hard to argue against changing that team.
Besides, both have players like Varane, Umtiti, Kimpembe, Herandez (yes, he's mainly a LB but can also play as LCB), Rami to compete against for a spot while Andersen is have Kjær, Matthias Jørgensen and Andreas Christensen in front of him and he (Andersen) is yet to even play 1 game for them.
Rabiot is simply not play because of his personality.

THFCSPURS19 · Apr 11, 2019

Dharmabum said:
Why are so many fans here hooked on Joachim Andersen? He's not even getting into the Danish national team (yet)
Should Toby leave - which is highly likely - then Sanchez would be the natural replacement and Foyth and Dier the understudies.
I'd rather go for a young left-footed CB - f.ex. Kik Pierie, Dan-Axel Zagadou, Malang Sarr or Lloyd Kelly (or someone else).

None of the players you listed get into their international teams either. A lot of top players don't make in into international teams for various reasons. It's such a bullshit argument. Soz.

Ron Burgundy · Apr 11, 2019

On the basis of some of the football I saw them play last night, we should be all over Ajax - they've got some absolute stars

Shadydan · Apr 11, 2019

-Afri-Coy- said:
My biggest fear is we have come to a bridge with the club and Poch that we may not be able to cross together.

If he isn't backed in the way he feels he deserves to be backed during the transfer window I wouldn't be surprised to see him walk away.

That would be a tragedy as Poch has done absolute wonders with our team, and I believe he deserves to have the final say when it comes to transfers and targets. Give the man what he wants, no matter the cost.

It could be the difference between us winning trophies/titles under Poch or the team regressing and Poch walking away from the project. Which would obviously have a serious effect on our ability to retain the spine of our team.

Interesting times ahead for us.

Indeed, watershed moment for Spurs - we'll see if we really have learnt from the previous summer, the message from Poch couldn't be any more clearer so it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

danielneeds · Apr 11, 2019

Ron Burgundy said:
On the basis of some of the football I saw them play last night, we should be all over Ajax - they've got some absolute stars

The problem is most of Europe will be all over them this summer too. It'll be like a battle scene in Game of Thrones.

danielneeds · Apr 11, 2019

sunnydelight786 said:
Nail on head Sir..... Some of our fans really do make me wonder. Going all teeny boppers on a player "doing it" in the the Championship. His buyout clause, when he signed his new contract last Sep, is bids in excess of £45m. Let that figure sink the fuck in for a minute....

We have a limited budget, surely the money should be spent on proper quality as opposed to on a player who still has it all to prove with the "English player" tax added to his price.

What is "proper quality" though? Statistically the Championship, in terms of wage budgets, is one of the strongest leagues in Europe. Anyone can see the talent Grealish has, the way he moves with the ball, his balance and ability to skip past challenges, he's a quality player. Added to that, he's shown real maturity this season, and grabbed his team by the scruff of the neck.

Putting aside what he may or may not cost, I'd be very excited to see how Poch could develop this lad.

SwedishSpurs · Apr 11, 2019

I wonder what has happened with Milinkovic-Savic. Is it just me or has it been a bit quiet about him? It feels like pretty much every team in Europe wanted him last summer.

-Afri-Coy- · Apr 11, 2019

SwedishSpurs said:
I wonder what has happened with Milinkovic-Savic. Is it just me or has it been a bit quiet about him? It feels like pretty much every team in Europe wanted him last summer.

Savic Whoscored

His stats for this season aren't too bad, and he is still Lazio's engine. I know a few of the big boys were interested last summer but he was the shiny new toy of the window. Times change, and I think there are some new toys in the window which means SMS is kind of flying below the radar.

Lazio were also expecting £100+ million for him too which may have scared off his potential suitors.

Bar N'dombele, if money were no object I'd love to have Savic in our midfield. Really think he could fit in well with Dier/Sissoko/Winks/Wanyama depending on who remains here next season. He would be competing for Winks place though as they do similar jobs for their teams which makes it kind of tricky. I see Winks becoming one hell of a player in the next season or two.

BringBack_leGin · Apr 11, 2019

Grealish would be a great buy, I’m concerned that they’re going to get promoted though. Hopefully not.

dontcallme · Apr 11, 2019

Certainly impressed by what I have read about Grealish this season. Villa look safe for a play off place so interesting to see if they go up.

If they don’t surely he will leave. Villa will find it difficult to hold onto him for two summers.

Difficult one to call. If we can get a top name like Ndombele or De Jong then great but we shouldn’t dismiss talent from the Championship or relegated teams.

Ron Burgundy · Apr 11, 2019

dontcallme said:
If we can get a top name like Ndombele or De Jong then great but we shouldn’t dismiss talent from the Championship or relegated teams.

Something tells me De Jong might be going to Barca...

dontcallme · Apr 11, 2019

Ron Burgundy said:
Something tells me De Jong might be going to Barca...

Hence “like” De Jong.

Ron Burgundy · Apr 11, 2019

dontcallme said:
Hence “like” De Jong.

Got it. For me, I think we should go for players like Roberto Carlos, Cafu and Pirlo. That would sort us right out.

And yes, I agree that I'm a prick

Ossie85 · Apr 11, 2019

I would put all the money we have in Lo Celso and N'dombele. Even if they are worth over 60m each.

Buy those 2 and get the midfield sorted. If there's money left, get AWB

We need to be assertive like Liverpool did last summer.

sunnydelight786 · Apr 11, 2019

Shadydan said:
If It's a player that Poch wants we need to get him, we're not gonna go down thus route of looking for bargains again because it hasn't worked since Dele, all Poch is gonna do is reject them like he did last year.

Do or die this summer, it's as simple as that.

Agree with that. The real question is was JG a player who MP really had his heart set on or was he a ‘chance’ signing where we were trying to take advantage of Villa’s financial woes & MP saw his as a useful addition? My guess says the latter.....

sunnydelight786 · Apr 11, 2019

danielneeds said:
What is "proper quality" though? Statistically the Championship, in terms of wage budgets, is one of the strongest leagues in Europe. Anyone can see the talent Grealish has, the way he moves with the ball, his balance and ability to skip past challenges, he's a quality player. Added to that, he's shown real maturity this season, and grabbed his team by the scruff of the neck.

Putting aside what he may or may not cost, I'd be very excited to see how Poch could develop this lad.

Mate MP isn’t a magician, he can’t do that to every player. None of the players signed since summer 15 has he been able to turn to gold. Right now we have a player approaching his 24th birthday who’s looking a world beater in the bloody championship. Sessegnon was on a different planet last season in the Championship, was voted POTY, yet he’s struggled. Not ever star player that level will become a Dele. He’s a one off freak of nature!

Dharmabum · Apr 11, 2019

THFCSPURS19 said:
None of the players you listed get into their international teams either. A lot of top players don't make in into international teams for various reasons. It's such a bullshit argument. Soz.

Nor did I say they should be starters for Spurs which is obvious if you look at their age. How many defenders at that age (Pierie is 17, Zagadou 19 and Sarr is 20) are regular internationals on top level?
Who are those "a lots of top" players who, at the age of 23 haven't made a single team for the country?

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