Match Threads Spurs vs Leicester - Match Thread

ajspurs · Feb 10, 2019

TEESSIDE1 said:
Don’t criticise the team, you’re not allowed lol

But yes I agree we won ugly today, Leicester deserved something out of that game.

Seems that way

It's not that I'm not happy with the win or delighted with our ability to keep on going until the end and grinding out wins, because I absolutely love that we can do that and it's such a good trait to have instilled into the team. This performance in particular for me was too close to going completely the other way for my liking though and I know for a fact if I was a Leicester fan I'd be wondering how the fuck we lost 3-1, just like how I was left wondering how the hell we lost to United a few weeks back.

Shadydan · Feb 10, 2019

TEESSIDE1 said:
Leicester missed several excellent chances, we were poor especially in the 1st half and very open at the back, a better side would have punished us so yes we were very lucky.

The pundits and post match commentators also agree we were very lucky today.

I think you're missing the what the objective of football is - to put the ball in the back of the net. If Leicester couldn't finish their chances then that's down to them, that doesn't suggest they were unlucky to win it means they were extremely wasteful, no team deserved to win if they are that wasteful, sorry...and we were clinical, that's not down to luck because what you're insinuating is that we didn't deserve to win which I don't agree with.

The 'luck' argument also boils down to big moments in the match and doesn't focus on the 90 mins so for all the chances they had it doesn't tell the story of the full match - I haven't even brought up the fact that we should have had a pen as well but that's neither here nor there.

muppetman · Feb 10, 2019

gilzeantheking said:

Really wish they'd improve the sound quality of these - particularly the journalists asking the questions

TheChosenOne · Feb 10, 2019

SirNiNyHotspur said:
Michael Oliverpool stats this season:

Crystal Palace 0-2 Liverpool (Palace Red Card and Liverpool given Penalty)
Tottenham 1-2 Liverpool (Last min pen denied for Spurs)
Huddersfield 0-1 Liverpool (Let's face it, wouldn't have had to do anything in this match to ensure win)
Liverpool 5-1 Arsenal (2 pens given to Liverpool)

If you add in all the dodgy decisions v us (wouldn't be surprised if against City too)... Newcastle fan apparently

CoopsieDeadpool · Feb 10, 2019

TheChosenOne said:
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Simulation & yellow card offence. :cautious:

EastLondonYid · Feb 10, 2019

Today's victory is testament to the winning mentality our squad has.
As we keep winning the more it becomes a habit, defeat is not an option, all the top sides function this way year after year.
Games like today are won, yes with an element of luck, but more from never say die, i love this Spurs side so much.

Bulletspur · Feb 10, 2019

minesadouble said:
That wasn’t fun but I never expected it to be.

Leicester are the 7th best squad in the PL. Not so sure about their manager but they have some very good players. It was never going to be an easy match.

Meanwhile, Poch is juggling an already stretched squad, injuries and with a CL game coming up on Wednesday. No other Top 6 side would have partnered Skipp and Winks in a game like that. Yet we did. And we won. But it wasn’t relaxing.

Kudos to Lloris. He had a great game in all areas (shot-stops, distribution, anticipation) and also saved a pen which is rare. Sanchez and Rose were very good. The rest of the defence okay. We were mostly exposed at the back by our lack of control of midfield and upfront, and Leicester’s talent, rather than our own defensive mistakes.

Sissoko? How can a man go from a joke to a lynchpin in a few months? He’s clearly a confidence player. Boos from our fans and his own mistakes used to be a vicious circle of declining confidence. Now, his own song and his driving runs are helping him get even better each game. One day he’s going to score a winner. No doubt.

Eriksen. How can anybody debate his value to the team? In my opinion, only those who’ve never played seriously. Just because he can deliver 10/10 you can’t criticise him when he’s ‘only’ 8/10 and yet is still our most influential player. He’s bustling about without his usual front-3 mates and (I suspect) was also told to keep something in reserve for Wednesday. But he made our first goal, scored our second and marshalled the team. End of.

Go on my Son. Nailed on penalty. Gets a yellow card. But within a few minutes he’s smiling again. And it’s not often in the past 3 decades Spurs have had a striker who, when he’s through one-on-one, you just KNOW he’s going to score. Shout out to the Moose for a fantastic pass.

Like Poch, I never criticise Refs. It’s a tough job and most PL refs do it decently most of the time. Oliver had a shocker. I just hope he realises it as he drives home tonight.

Good post, well argued

luRRka · Feb 10, 2019

mpickard2087 said:
My first post on the subject said it all really. There was minimal contact at most, some of the replies I've had suggest it was clearly swiping him out (lol) or even inventing something happening (he was pushed by some mystery 3rd player!?).

And everyone can be top fans all they like but he then did throw himself over rather than running through and properly getting clocked. Just because other soft penalties (including in the same game.....) get given, doesn't mean this one should have for me. He tried to make the most of a tiny bit of contact, it failed, when it might not have done with several refs, but it did, move on. I'm more bothered about the crap performance I had to endure for 90 minutes today in all honesty.

https://streamable.com/5v74j
That mystery player is chilwell. (Lol)

TheChosenOne · Feb 10, 2019

coopsieyid said:
Simulation & yellow card offence.

Only by Oliver of course.

worcestersauce · Feb 10, 2019

Shadydan said:
I think you're missing the what the objective of football is - to put the ball in the back of the net. If Leicester couldn't finish their chances then that's down to them, that doesn't suggest they were unlucky to win it means they were extremely wasteful, no team deserved to win if they are that wasteful, sorry...and we were clinical, that's not down to luck because what you're insinuating is that we didn't deserve to win which I don't agree with.

The 'luck' argument also boils down to big moments in the match and doesn't focus on the 90 mins so for all the chances they had it doesn't tell the story of the full match - I haven't even brought up the fact that we should have had a pen as well but that's neither here nor there.

I agree, I really don't get this lucky nonsense, we were the better side, it wasn't easy and they had chances but guess what, that's what football's like, just because a team has chances doesn't mean the other team are lucky they didn't score, just because your keeper saves from a penalty doesn't make you lucky, lucky is a term that people throw about just because a team doesn't completely dominate the other side and it's just lazy.

Phomesy · Feb 10, 2019

ajspurs said:
Seems that way

It's not that I'm not happy with the win or delighted with our ability to keep on going until the end and grinding out wins, because I absolutely love that we can do that and it's such a good trait to have instilled into the team. This performance in particular for me was too close to going completely the other way for my liking though and I know for a fact if I was a Leicester fan I'd be wondering how the fuck we lost 3-1, just like how I was left wondering how the hell we lost to United a few weeks back.

I look at it the other way. I'm gobsmacked how this team have got the results they have in the league given all the setbacks. Thought the United game would be the straw that broke our backs. But, instead, we keep finding a way.

Winks and Sissoko in the midfield.

Llorente leading the line.

Skipp...

Yet we found a way to win.

Fucking love this team.

It helps if you go into a game reminding yourself that our current first 11 isn't actually much better than most. Kane, Dele, Dier and Lamela are significant outs.

TEESSIDE1 · Feb 10, 2019

Shadydan said:
I think you're missing the what the objective of football is - to put the ball in the back of the net. If Leicester couldn't finish their chances then that's down to them, that doesn't suggest they were unlucky to win it means they were extremely wasteful, no team deserved to win if they are that wasteful, sorry...and we were clinical, that's not down to luck because what you're insinuating is that we didn't deserve to win which I don't agree with.

The 'luck' argument also boils down to big moments in the match and doesn't focus on the 90 mins so for all the chances they had it doesn't tell the story of the full match - I haven't even brought up the fact that we should have had a pen as well but that's neither here nor there.

We were poor, Leicester were very good and didn’t deserve to lose. If we put a performance in like that against Dortmund we’ll get our arses kicked.

Ionman34 · Feb 10, 2019

Dov67 said:
just back from the game. Was that ref performance as big a stinker as it appeared in the ground??

And then some!

Shadydan · Feb 10, 2019

TEESSIDE1 said:
We were poor, Leicester were very good and didn’t deserve to lose. If we put a performance in like that against Dortmund we’ll get our arses kicked.

Right...okay but that didn't rebuttal anything I said though.

easley91 · Feb 10, 2019

TEESSIDE1 said:
We were poor, Leicester were very good and didn’t deserve to lose. If we put a performance in like that against Dortmund we’ll get our arses kicked.

Whether they deserve something or not doesn't matter, because they lost. Much like we felt we didn't deserve to lose to United as we dominated that second half. Bottom line is if you don't take your chances, you are likely to drop points. We were clinical. Nothing lucky about that. Also nothing lucky about the mental attitude this team has when it comes to going until the final whistle.

How many times over the years have results gone against us in games we deserved something? It happens. Whether you like how we got there or not, those 3 vital points keeps us in touch with the two above us.

eViL · Feb 10, 2019

TEESSIDE1 said:
We were poor, Leicester were very good and didn’t deserve to lose.

Leicester were good at looking good, while we were good at winning.

FibreOpticJesus · Feb 10, 2019

Mr Pink said:
It was a penalty, albeit it would of looked a bit soft.

But to book him for simulation was an absolute joke.

And if he is going to book him for diving he has to be 100% sure he saw a dive. One of the worst refereeing performances I have seen all year.

ajspurs · Feb 10, 2019

Phomesy said:
I look at it the other way. I'm gobsmacked how this team have got the results they have in the league given all the setbacks. Thought the United game would be the straw that broke our backs. But, instead, we keep finding a way.

Winks and Sissoko in the midfield.

Llorente leading the line.

Skipp...

Yet we found a way to win.

Fucking love this team.

It helps if you go into a game reminding yourself that our current first 11 isn't actually much better than most. Kane, Dele, Dier and Lamela are significant outs.

Don't get me wrong I think of it this way too. I think it's incredible that we're where we are now given everything we've had to face and with the factors that you've listed above. Had we dropped points against Fulham or Newcastle, I wouldn't have bee angered in truth because our squad is so up against it. The Watford game (at least half way through it) and this game were a little different for me though. Watford because I thought what we were doing wasn't working and we were absolutely crying out for the addition of Lucas/Lamela and today because I thought we were crying out for Lucas admittedly but Alderweireld was a reassuring change at least.

It was more so because I think we had tools to change the game (albeit not many) still and I don't know how anyone could watch that match today and not think things needed changing for large periods throughout.

That's just my standalone assessment on the game itself today but I at the same time completely agree with what you're saying too. I'll admit to the belief that I think we got lucky today, but at the same time I'll happily state that it was a fantastic result, especially when you consider 4 of our attacking players in Kane, Lamela, Lucas and Alli were not present on the pitch.

Actually think we would have won this comfortably if we had a fully fit team, despite how promising Leicester looked.

wirE · Feb 10, 2019

A good win today. Fully deserved penalty save. Sissoko’s pass to Son was amazing

Giovanni · Feb 10, 2019

I agree with the notion that we have yet again dug deep and won with a winners mentality but theres no doubt in my mind that we need to tighten up in nearly all areas. Too easy to create against us and open us up. Kane and alli back will for sure sort out the attack along with eriksen and son. But we have to find a way to shut out teams and stay solid.
Dortmund should be a fascinating one!

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