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Deggsy56

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The PL aren't losing money, they just aren't making as much as the fat cats would like.
Don't blame the public for that though, blame players and their agents for wanting 100+k per week at a bottom 5 team.

I watch all our games via IPTV, but that's about it. Very rarely do I watch any other games because I'm just not interested.
Sky aren't losing out as we cancelled our contract 5 or so years ago because we didn't watch enough to justify the cost.
Spurs aren't losing out because I wasn't going to the games before I used IPTV.

I'd happily paid £10-15 per month for a dedicated legal Spurs match channel...

Totally agree. I watch all spurs games via PS4 !!! And why shouldn't I? It's Our League, (best in world apparently) so how can other countries watch our 3pms but legally I can't ??? Like you I'm only interested in Spurs. No one else. However every other Saturday afternoon I pay 8 quid to watch Prescot Cables at home ! I'll tell you what I'll subscribe to NBCSN and watch any game I want ! I quit sky years ago. They gave PL millions then upped the subscription aiding players to demand higher wages !!! Blah blah blah
 

Archibald&Crooks

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This thread is going to get itself locked if talk is going to be about dodgy illegal ways to watch football and posts asking for PM's.
 

mark87

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It’s ridiculous that it’s our league, yet we are the only country that can’t watch all the games. It’s astonishing.

I think may a part of this is what will happen to match attendance figures should all games be available to watch. I know most of our and the other 'top six' games are on tv, but if you make every single game for every club available to watch then I feel attendances at games might go down.
 

Gb160

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This thread is going to get itself locked if talk is going to be about dodgy illegal ways to watch football and posts asking for PM's.
Its always the way...every thread that gets started relating to Sky/BT/Television rights, goes the same way and ends up with people asking for IPTV.
Its a shame because its a relevant topic.
 

Lilbaz

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Bt and sky actually make a loss on their sport packages but make it up on the broadband as a lot of people will get the tv broadband deal. The premier league went for the foreign broadcasters not because they paid the most but because they had the most viewers as they are still trying to grow demand in countries like china and america.

I doubt we'll see the prem do their own service for a while yet.
 

WalkerboyUK

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What's most interesting at the moment about the 3pm broadcasting ban is that every Football League club has legal streaming of their matches via iFollow. You can pay £10 per match to watch a live broadcast.
That isn't impacting on match day attendances, so why do they assume that PL games being broadcast will do??
 

Gb160

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What's most interesting at the moment about the 3pm broadcasting ban is that every Football League club has legal streaming of their matches via iFollow. You can pay £10 per match to watch a live broadcast.
That isn't impacting on match day attendances, so why do they assume that PL games being broadcast will do??
A lot of lower league clubs dont just have their hardcore own fans attending, they also have a lot of casual, every now and then fans, who follow a premier league club as well.
The fear is that these fans wont go to watch the lower league games on a Saturday at 3pm, if they could watch their PL team at home or in the boozer.
 

WalkerboyUK

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A lot of lower league clubs dont just have their hardcore own fans attending, they also have a lot of casual, every now and then fans, who follow a premier league club as well.
The fear is that these fans wont go to watch the lower league games on a Saturday at 3pm, if they could watch their PL team at home or in the boozer.

I would say 90% of those that go to FL games are regulars. If they weren't you'd see massive fluctuations in attendances week to week.
 

Gb160

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I would say 90% of those that go to FL games are regulars. If they weren't you'd see massive fluctuations in attendances week to week.
Its not just FL though, I go to Enfield (non league), and id say at least 75% were Spurs/West Ham/Chelsea/Scum fans, either banned, cant afford or cant be bothered to go to PL games...id bet every one of them would be in the boozer watching the team of their choice at 3PM on a Saturday if they had the option to.
It would literally kill the game off at that level, hundreds of clubs would disappear....they wouldnt be able to survive financially.
There are 57 divisions in the National league.
 

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This thread is going to get itself locked if talk is going to be about dodgy illegal ways to watch football and posts asking for PM's.
Another few posts deleted. Once again and for the final time. This thread is not about how YOU watch your football or telling the world what service you use. It all leads this thread into an area we'd rather not have it go to.

Please stop it.
 

Westmorlandspur

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Give it 5 or 6 years and I think BT might have jacked in the football. They have paid way over the odds for Champ lge and their next PL deal has gone down in quality. It states they have 52 games in the new deal, but in reality they have 32 and will show 2 sets of midweek games on the red button. Equates to 36 games compared to current deal. We can only watch one game at a time unless you want to keep jumping about.
Also none of the 32 games are first picks. They only went into it for the broadband but have lost a lot of money doing it.
IIRC it was the EU who forced some packages to go to other firms. Things might change when we leave.
In the summer Sky are able to sell bt sport as part of their sports package so might be a bit cheaper.
I got it for half price this year but if we were not in Europe I prob would not have bothered.
 

Oscar22

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I take it we can’t just get the NBC sports app through legal means and paid subscription on their site? I’m assuming it’s only available within America etc?

It is somewhat bizarre other countries can watch our league and not us. It’s going to get more expensive considering it will soon be Amazon, Sky AND BT. It would be great if the premier league put it all in one place.
 

'O Zio

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Ill expand a few Posters have mentioned that they would abandon Sky if the PL began to broadcast its own sports rights, Simply making the point that i don't think that will work IMO as most people take on Sky because they want more than sports or more than just EPL. They want an all day TV service. In that scenario a pure EPL package maybe wouldn't work as Prime, Netflix etc are all day steaming services as is Sky/Sports. They cant broadcast live games to protect stadium attendances , don't see how thats ever going to change. Would anyone really care about League One games ? IMO I don't think it would work as the PL would need to offer more than just EPL games on a platform, then they would have to go buy rights to Golf, Motorsport, Cricket etc. Then they are no longer offering a streaming service but need to build a comprehensive platform like SKY. Will the PL then get HBO rights etc.

You're missing the point though. I'm not saying get the Spurs games but then no other TV at all. I'm saying the service offered by Sky is not value for money and that's why people are leaving in their droves. If there was a Spurs-only package you could buy, people would buy that and then pay e.g. for Netflix/Amazon Prime etc. to watch movies and stuff. Or alternatively they'd just cancel the Sky Sports stuff and go for a cheaper Sky package. I'd wager that the majority of people who subscribe to Sky Sports do so mostly to watch their own team's matches. If you could get all the Spurs games separately, most people wouldn't continue to pay for Sky sports just so that they could watch the odd game as a neutral.
 

hellava_tough

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Haven't read the whole thread and will do so later, but can you imagine the advertising revenue as well as the subscription fee?

Currently Sky, BT, etc pull in all that ad revenue. The PL could have that for themselves if they wanted.

The amount of money to be made is astronomical!!

If they created this model I genuinely believe that clubs like West Ham and Newcastle would be bigger than Barca and Real given a bit of time

I know that sounds crazy, but you're talking about increasing the TV money for clubs by 4 or 5 times. No way anyone can compete with that
 

Lilbaz

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You're missing the point though. I'm not saying get the Spurs games but then no other TV at all. I'm saying the service offered by Sky is not value for money and that's why people are leaving in their droves. If there was a Spurs-only package you could buy, people would buy that and then pay e.g. for Netflix/Amazon Prime etc. to watch movies and stuff. Or alternatively they'd just cancel the Sky Sports stuff and go for a cheaper Sky package. I'd wager that the majority of people who subscribe to Sky Sports do so mostly to watch their own team's matches. If you could get all the Spurs games separately, most people wouldn't continue to pay for Sky sports just so that they could watch the odd game as a neutral.

And that would kill any competition in football. Utd would earn an absolute fortune and the smaller teams would die.
 

'O Zio

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And that would kill any competition in football. Utd would earn an absolute fortune and the smaller teams would die.

Given that having a "every game your club plays" package would require them to remove the 3pm Saturday blackout, as part of the negotiation the Football League/government/whoever is in charge of that should insist that the only way they'll remove the 3pm blackout is if the PL clubs agree to distribute the money more evenly with the smaller teams both in the PL and the Football League. Whether or not they'd agree to that is another matter obviously but worst case scenario things would just carry on as normal, best case scenario they agree to it then everybody wins.
 

Lilbaz

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Given that having a "every game your club plays" package would require them to remove the 3pm Saturday blackout, as part of the negotiation the Football League/government/whoever is in charge of that should insist that the only way they'll remove the 3pm blackout is if the PL clubs agree to distribute the money more evenly with the smaller teams both in the PL and the Football League. Whether or not they'd agree to that is another matter obviously but worst case scenario things would just carry on as normal, best case scenario they agree to it then everybody wins.

Not talking about that. If you had every game your team plays package man utd would sell far more than the likes of huddersfield. They would then demand far more money. You already see it happening now.
 

'O Zio

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Not talking about that. If you had every game your team plays package man utd would sell far more than the likes of huddersfield. They would then demand far more money. You already see it happening now.

No, I don't think it'll happen either for that reason. Although it would very much depend on whether this whole "European SUper League" idea ever became more of a realistic possibility. As long as that remains an idle threat, Man Utd wouldn't have anywhere to go really so you could just tell them it's for the good of the game and that there wouldn't be a league with no other teams. It's optimistic, I know, but that's the only way it could happen, is if the FA were prepared to tell MAn Utd to shut the fuck up and deal with it.
 
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