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danielneeds

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It is a little strange that on Friday night on BT Sport he was all about the project, and not spending for spending’s sake, and making room for the academy kids. Then today he’s all about needing more money to compete.
 
scat1620

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vegassd said:
What I find annoying is the sensationalism that has to exist around everything. Fans slag off the media for it but do it just as much themselves. The idea that Poch says something in a presser and that must mean he’s frustrated and “sending a message” is a playground mentality imo and I sincerely hope the people running our club are above that.
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I like your measured arguments, even when I have a different take on things to your own. Fair play for going out of your way to keep the discussion constructive. (y)

Without going all hyperbolic about it in a "ZOMG Poch is gone for defs!" manner though, I think the bolded part of your post is a touch optimistic. As JJ seems to be hinting, I think sending a message to Levy through the media is exactly what Poch has done today, and knowingly at that. For me, the question is how gentle (or not) the prod was intended to be.
 
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Normally i would bury my head in the sand when Poch speaks as normally it can be overblown into all proportions however i think this press conference was a huge sign of frustration. He is ambitious and can hit the heights he wants at Manure and Real Madrid but it is obvious he wants to achieve this here and is giving us every opportunity to support him.

I dont think it is right for us to just take these press conferences for granted and just assume he 'loves' it too much here to leave - that is not a given. We need to take the next step up the problem is how? if we dont have the cash... if we do then we need to spend that. No one is suggesting spending hundreds of millions but it is clear Poch wants a few pieces of the jigsaw to bring in that silverware/league/CL...

This summer it appears to be a crossroads for us as a club and Poch
 
easley91

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He just said he wishes to spend 20 years here if circumstances and Levy allow it. How can anyone say he wants out?!
 
Lighty64

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am_yisrael_chai said:
I’ve got to commend you on your ability to constantly see the positive Levy aspect in anything that happens. If as you suggest Poch and Levy are on the same page then why do you suggest he made these comments to the press ? To tell everyone just how well they get on and that at their last meeting they agreed things would change ? Is that why he quoted the European transfer league stat with Spurs at the bottom because he is ecstatic with that and he was celebrating it with Levy at their last meeting ?

I think you should reach out to 10 Downing Street because they really need your type of skills.
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your just the complete opposite though, the deeper you can stick the knife in the happier you will be.

Perhaps he is proud of what he has achieved on those stats, and hopes he achieves something which would be a lot more pleasing considering what other teams have spent.
 
am_yisrael_chai

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vegassd said:
Do you think that Poch only just realised today that money would need to be spent to win the league? Of course not.

When Spurs hired him and his team it would not have been on a whim. There would have been a plan in place including performance targets and spending constraints. This will happen for almost all manager appointments I would imagine, but in our case it would have had the stadium build included in the timeline.

So Spurs ask him that for the first five years whilst they build the stadium, does he feel capable of building a team to get CL once it opens, given the spending constraints.

In the next five years I imagine they asked if he can build a team to win the league. What sort of money might be required. What else does he feel would be needed.

All of this will have been planned and financially forecast way in advance. The club’s budget is in the hundreds of millions so they aren’t running the show from one day to another.

Now it turns out Poch is better than we could have hoped and has the team way ahead of this plan. So what should the club do? Stick to the plan or throw caution to the wind and potentially rock the boat? A lot of us fans would love the gung-ho approach but I don’t think it would be prudent.

Poch is a pro, as is Levy. They aren’t sending each other messages through the press. They aren’t making up the budget every Monday morning. They’ve formed plans together with input from both sides... it’s how organisations function.

The reason that Poch says this stuff in press outings is because he gets asked about spending and trophies all the time. What else is he meant to say?
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Wow, just wow. You think that was the only way Poch could respond to questions on the transfer window ? I’m genuinely lost for words.
 
am_yisrael_chai

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Lighty64 said:
your just the complete opposite though, the deeper you can stick the knife in the happier you will be.

Perhaps he is proud of what he has achieved on those stats, and hopes he achieves something which would be a lot more pleasing considering what other teams have spent.
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As I’ve said to others, watch the interview and then come and tell me if you think that is what he is saying.
 
spursfan77

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Here’s the quotes

The Argentine has been talking about his long-term future in north London

Mauricio Pochettino has admitted he would like to stay at Tottenham Hotspur for 20 years but wants to ask Arsene Wenger whether it was worth it at Arsenal.

The Spurs boss has been talking about the parallels between what is going on at Tottenham with their new stadium and what happened with Wenger and the Emirates.

Amid all the speculation surrounding Pochettino and interest from Real Madrid and Manchester United, the Argentine admitted that he would like to spend two decades at Tottenham and potentially end his managerial career in north London.

However, he pointed to the criticism Wenger got towards the end of his time at Spurs' local rivals and said he would like to ask his former rival whether it was worth it.

"I have massive, huge respect for Arsene Wenger because when you talk about 22 years in charge of a club like Arsenal and all that happened in that period, you need to be so good -- not only a fantastic coach but a great human being to translate the values you have," he said.

"It’s amazing. That is why it’s a little bit sad the way he finished in his club. But it shows a little bit how difficult it is, this business. For us it’s not a business, football is a passion, but all that Arsene Wenger gave for Arsenal, to finish in the way he finished, yes, it was a little bit, completely, unfair.

"I think he deserves, an amazing recognition about his work. Only I hope, if I have one day the opportunity to talk with him, to ask if ‘was it worth it to do?’ I don’t know what he would say, I would like to ask one day."

On similarities between his situation and Wenger's he added: "Yes, yes. It’s true it's only going to be my fifth year, but it’s true we work and we know the reality of all that happens inside, and sometimes we cannot expect that the people live the same reality or have the same knowledge about what happens inside.

"I hope, or I wish maybe, to be here 20 years and decide to leave or to finish my career here. But I don’t know because I need to ask him if I have one day the possibility if he is so happy in the way that he finished. I don’t believe. What I saw from my point of view, it was so unfair how the people treated him and talked. But we’ll see."
 
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