The Mauricio Pochettino thread

Spurslove · Dec 21, 2018

vegassd said:
Just ignore it mate. It’s not hard.

It should be easy to ignore, but we all know we're going to be bombarded with this speculation until the summer and the frenzy is going to increase steadily up until then. As fans, the constant drip drip drip of this speculation has an affect on our sense of general well-being and confidence in Poch and his team being here for the duration (remember, he's just signed a five year deal with the club...)

You say 'it's not hard to ignore it' and I hope you do find it easy, but somehow, I don't think there'll be many fans with your mental strength. I may be wrong about that.

My point is/was, the club could at some stage make an official statement to say all the speculation is unfounded, and no approaches for our manager's services will be invited as he is committed to remaining at the club and to delivering the project he has been so much a part of over the last four years.

I reckon as fans, that'd be all we'd need to hear and United can then go and play with their fingers while we continue to build a fantastic side ready to make a real challenge for the title, playing in a fantastic world class stadium of our own and sticking two fingers up at all our main rivals.

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Lilbaz · Dec 21, 2018

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/pre...-mourinhos-sacking/ar-BBRf5aW?ocid=spartanntp

What a bunch of wankers. Hope poch reads all this crap and thinks nah. Too many wankers and wont be backed to ship them.

buckley · Dec 21, 2018

What annoys me about the Carragers and Nevilles of this world is they always start with "no disrespect to Tottenham " whilst doing just that meaning they have no respect.
Meantime there is one other manager in almost the same position as Poch and that is Simeone at Athletico Madrid and he has rebuffed all attempts to pry him away from Athletico for so called bigger clubs respect and kudos due to him in bucketfulls.

neogenisis · Dec 21, 2018

It doesnt fit the Medias Rhetoric to bang on about Poch staying at Spurs does it? The hysteria is all press driven. Calm all your tits and stop watching the click bait websites like..well all of them! this is the same shit different day as Poch is an excellent manager.

SKY SPORTS NEWS BREAKING NEWS -. JOSE SACKED SOMEONE WILL TAKE HIS PLACE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE!!

Doesnt have the same ring to it does it?

Shadydan · Dec 21, 2018

Spurslove said:
It should be easy to ignore, but we all know we're going to be bombarded with this speculation until the summer and the frenzy is going to increase steadily up until then. As fans, the constant drip drip drip of this speculation has an affect on our sense of general well-being and confidence in Poch and his team being here for the duration (remember, he's just signed a five year deal with the club...)

You say 'it's not hard to ignore it' and I hope you do find it easy, but somehow, I don't think there'll be many fans with your mental strength. I may be wrong about that.

My point is/was, the club could at some stage make an official statement to say all the speculation is unfounded, and no approaches for our manager's services will be invited as he is committed to remaining at the club and to delivering the project he has been so much a part of over the last four years.

I reckon as fans, that'd be all we'd need to hear and United can then go and play with their fingers while we continue to build a fantastic side ready to make a real challenge for the title, playing in a fantastic world class stadium of our own and sticking two fingers up at all our main rivals.

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That's not going to stop the speculation.

The moment Utd get a new manager is the moment it stops, for now.

As a fanbase we just need to learn to deal with it because it's speculation isn't going to go away.

Lilbaz · Dec 21, 2018

Lets just win the cl to change the narative.

bubble07 · Dec 21, 2018

It would have been nice if Poch could have said what the press officer said though

Ben1 · Dec 21, 2018

Shadydan said:
That's not going to stop the speculation.

The moment Utd get a new manager is the moment it stops, for now.

As a fanbase we just need to learn to deal with it because it's speculation isn't going to go away.

Lost in all the hype was the fact United actually appointed a manager, but that was no where near interesting or controversial enough for Sky Sports.

Blackrat1299 · Dec 21, 2018

Paolo10 said:
The speculation won't stop regardless.

It will during press conferences that are staged to present info on the upcoming game, that is and was the agenda for the presser.
If you go into a board meeting with a set agenda you dont raise issues that you think you ought to talk about.

Shadydan · Dec 21, 2018

Good Lord, this man is preeching:

When Ben Davies was going to play as a centre-back against Burnley, the perception is, 'Oh but Ben Davies is not a centre-back,'" he said.

"But after two games, two clean sheets -- a first clean sheet at the Emirates against Arsenal and a clean sheet against Burnley -- and two victories, now the people are like, 'Wow, yes, amazing performance from Ben Davies.' But before it was negative, rather than saying, 'OK we're going to see what happens. Then we're going to criticise or praise.',

This can be applied to people that question his line ups before the match on here in the match threads you know who you are. ?

Lilbaz · Dec 21, 2018

bubble07 said:
It would have been nice if Poch could have said what the press officer said though

Not his job and the club wouldn't want him to. It's the reason we have a press officer, poch keeps his good relations with the media.

LexingtonSpurs · Dec 21, 2018

Carragher exists in a world where he needs clubs like Spurs to be below the Sky 5. That is how football was when he was coming through - and he is too thick to understand the evolution that has already happened where Spurs are firmly positioned among the league challengers.

yankspurs · Dec 21, 2018

Shadydan said:
Good Lord, this man is preeching:

This can be applied to people that question his line ups before the match on here in the match threads you know who you are. ?

I feel like he’s setting us up for Foyth at DM which the only reason I pray does not happen is because I could really do without thinky gloating 24/7

Metalhead · Dec 21, 2018

Problem is that at the moment, Poch as far as we know

Shadydan said:
Good Lord, this man is preeching:

This can be applied to people that question his line ups before the match on here in the match threads you know who you are. ?

Fair play though, those people have probably played Football Manager and taken their team from the conference to the premier league title so I think that you'll find that they are more than entitled to give their opinions on Poch - after all, he hasn't won a trophy yet!

vegassd · Dec 21, 2018

Spurslove said:
My point is/was, the club could at some stage make an official statement to say all the speculation is unfounded, and no approaches for our manager's services will be invited as he is committed to remaining at the club and to delivering the project he has been so much a part of over the last four years.

To say we won't listen to offers for the manager is tantamount to saying that Poch is a Tottenham slave for the next four and a half years. Whilst I would personally welcome that arrangement, it's not how the world works.

Likewise, Poch isn't in a realistic position to say that he won't leave in the summer... not in public anyway. What if we sack him? What if he gets ill or some other reason to leave (that isn't the United job) crops up?

As far as we are aware there has been no approach for Poch yet. That isn't to say it's not coming, but it demonstrates how much of a media frenzy there is based on nothing more than speculation. The club could say that we aren't interested in "selling" Poch to anybody but it won't stop the stories and it won't stop United from making an approach if and when they do. The current media wank fest is just that.

Nobody will give a shit about it next week because it's Christmas. Then attention turns to the Boxing Day fixtures, then it's the City vs. Liverpool game, then it's the Carabao semis. Then January 13th we will get it all again when Poch craps all over Solskjaer before the Carabao second legs. Then it's City playing Arsenal and Chelsea back to back before the Carabao final and whatever FA cup games are happening. Then it's the run in, then the FA cup final, then more speculation about Poch to United.

Then once all that has passed a bunch of men and women will meet behind closed doors to decide who will manage Spurs and who will manage United next season.

EDIT: you can probably throw in Poch speculation when we move into the new stadium and when ourselves and United drop out of the CL as well. When United fall out of the FA cup and are mathematically out of the top four it will be there too. It's gonna happen and no amount of statements from club or manager will prevent it.

Coyboy · Dec 21, 2018

Monkey boy said:
That made me so angry I nearly spat at a 14 year old girls face

If I could give a double funny rating I would. Well played Sir.

Coyboy · Dec 21, 2018

vegassd said:
I think it is about correct. It's contract law at the end of the day, right?

If Poch decided he no longer wanted to work for Spurs we have no way to force him to turn up every day and give his best. It's an employment contract not a certificate of ownership. If employer and employee are really at loggerheads the case would go to arbitration where the general outcome is that the employee can escape their contract if they pay the employer the remaining value of it. The idea is that the employer can take that money and hire somebody else to fill the role.

Any compensation paid on top of that would be there to grease the wheels.

In theory Spurs could force him to see out his contract (I think, maybe some human rights stuff there) but it wouldn't be good for us to have an employee in that position who isn't really trying. So that's where the compensation fee really comes in... that extra bit of "sorry" for the disruption it would cause.

Depending on the terms, they could potentially apply for an injunction to stop him working for a competitor but highly unlikely.

longtimespur · Dec 21, 2018

I wonder if all our new fans/followers from the last few years with Poch as manager have the same negativity as some of the older fans? I don't just mean people that are old like I am but those that have followed THFC for 10-30years. They've always been used to the Spursy situations where we miss out, except occasionally, and are just conditioned to always expect the same. Even those whom started supporting in the 70's. It just seems to be hard to get out of that mindset for a load of them.
Maybe this is what Pochetinno is pointing out, as well as those FIFA managers, and wants to change the way some of our fans and people in general think about our great club. We see it all the time in the press about it's Spurs, they're this or they're that and don't expect nor seem to want us to win anything.
On here there are people I genuinely avoid reading because everything they write is full of negativity. Then say they are a positive person if only I knew them!!!
If everyone could think positively about our club/team/management/all our players (even those who get soo much derision) then I think the team will become even greater than they are and start winning things like when I was a kid back in the 50's and 60's.
It really is amazing what the power of positive thinking can accomplish.
COYS. Bring back the glory years.

aussiespursguy · Dec 21, 2018

L-man said:
The Manchester Evening News also congratulated Man Utd on calling Tottenhams bluff in the summer for Alderweireld

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/toby-alderweireld-man-utd-transfer-14993381

Written by the infamous Samual NoLuckhurst. Worst Journo in the uk!

robertgoulet · Dec 21, 2018

longtimespur said:
I wonder if all our new fans/followers from the last few years with Poch as manager have the same negativity as some of the older fans? I don't just mean people that are old like I am but those that have followed THFC for 10-30years. They've always been used to the Spursy situations where we miss out, except occasionally, and are just conditioned to always expect the same. Even those whom started supporting in the 70's. It just seems to be hard to get out of that mindset for a load of them.
Maybe this is what Pochetinno is pointing out, as well as those FIFA managers, and wants to change the way some of our fans and people in general think about our great club. We see it all the time in the press about it's Spurs, they're this or they're that and don't expect nor seem to want us to win anything.
On here there are people I genuinely avoid reading because everything they write is full of negativity. Then say they are a positive person if only I knew them!!!
If everyone could think positively about our club/team/management/all our players (even those who get soo much derision) then I think the team will become even greater than they are and start winning things like when I was a kid back in the 50's and 60's.
It really is amazing what the power of positive thinking can accomplish.
COYS. Bring back the glory years.

My first year really supporting the club was 2012/13. I'm sure that makes me a bit less pessimistic, but also assisting in that is that I have been a Cubs fan since I was a baby. For an American, it's easiest trying to explain Spurs to someone who doesn't know anything about the history just by saying "think the Cubs pre-2016".

(for those unaware, Cubs hadn't won a title since 1908 and have made "Spursy" look cute in comparison to the late blow-ups they historically had...before eventually climbing the mountain and winning it all in 2016).

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