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How about we let Winks surpass 35 games in a season before we start comparing him to the best midfielders of all time...
How about we read what's actually be said before jumping to conclusions...
How about we let Winks surpass 35 games in a season before we start comparing him to the best midfielders of all time...
I read what was said, someone just last page literally said ManU and Barcelona were built around similar players in Carrick & Xavi.How about we read what's actually be said before jumping to conclusions...
I read what was said, someone just last page literally said ManU and Barcelona were built around similar players in Carrick & Xavi.
I think its unfair to the kid and its a bit of what the argument is about. People get expectations of what he should be in terms of a player due to who people compare him to. It's like how Poch talks about him and says Iniesta, then people get disappointed when he isn't producing goals & assists.But he is a similar player as he plays in their position. No on has said he's the next Xavi or Carrick or he can reach their level, I dont understand your point?
I read what was said, someone just last page literally said ManU and Barcelona were built around similar players in Carrick & Xavi.
But he is a similar player as he plays in their position. No on has said he's the next Xavi or Carrick or he can reach their level, I dont understand your point?
I think its unfair to the kid and its a bit of what the argument is about. People get expectations of what he should be in terms of a player due to who people compare him to. It's like how Poch talks about him and says Iniesta, then people get disappointed when he isn't producing goals & assists.
But I fully understand Poch building up the kids confidence.
Maybe just some confusion on my part.. and when people say they prefer midfielders like Dembele who dribble to players who are pass first. Obviously Winks is more like Xavi then he is like Dembele in that he is a pass first player but I personally don't see a ton of similiarities in their games. Just like I don't see a ton of similarities in Winks and Carrick either as Carrick would play as the lone holding player but I digress.Yeah you've taken my point out of context, the previous poster said he is not the type of midfielder we want if we want to go for titles and I argued that players in that style have been integral to two of the most successful teams of all time.
Maybe just some confusion on my part.. and when people say they prefer midfielders like Dembele who dribble to players who are pass first. Obviously Winks is more like Xavi then he is like Dembele in that he is a pass first player but I personally don't see a ton of similiarities in their games. Just like I don't see a ton of similarities in Winks and Carrick either as Carrick would play as the lone holding player but I digress.
Fortunately he doesn't log on to SC
I hope.
But in any case
give the boy a break
see how he goes
for the rest of the season
hope he stays injury free
and if he plays poorly say so
if he plays well ,say so
like we do with every other player
whether they are Academy kids or not.
The number of midfielders
in the Premiership
that can tackle and pass well
can be numbered
on the toes of one foot.
Fortunately he doesn't log on to SC
I hope.
But in any case
give the boy a break
see how he goes
for the rest of the season
hope he stays injury free
and if he plays poorly say so
if he plays well ,say so
like we do with every other player
whether they are Academy kids or not.
The number of midfielders
in the Premiership
that can tackle and pass well
can be numbered
on the toes of one foot.
Thought he was pretty good today. Would absolutely love to see him with someone LIKE Ndombele next to him. Would take some of the pressure off of him being the only real distributer in that midfield group.
Carrick was criminally underrated at Spurs as well
I just wish he'd impose himself more on games. He seems to play so within himself.
I still don't see him as good enough to be first choice CM for us, it has to be said. We need better in there. I look at how Fabinho is starting to play at Liverpool, absolute leagues above Winks. What he showed against United ability wise was a really high level and he only cost 30 million.
I still just see a less dynamic / aggressive Scott Parker.