The Daily ITK Discussion Thread 8th August

Roberts84 · Aug 8, 2018

tommo84 said:
The ITK re Dembele makes absolutely no sense to me. Shipping him overseas while we could still get a fee made sense, but to a rival in England? With no time to pick up a genuine replacement? That is a crazy move from us that I just cannot get behind.

We probably get a higher fee selling to a premiership club

freeeki · Aug 8, 2018

SpartanSpur said:
Rumour is the Kovacic loan freed up the cash for Chelsea to pay that stupid Kepa fee, Kovacic seems more of a pipe dream at this stage than Martial IMHO.

Consider my pipe well and truly dreaming.

RobjDerby · Aug 8, 2018

Anyone getting excited about Ali Z last line - he just said they are the only CM names he's heard in the past, not that we are in any way close or that we are still looking at them now.

Indisguise · Aug 8, 2018

SpartanSpur said:
Rumour is the Kovacic loan freed up the cash for Chelsea to pay that stupid Kepa fee, Kovacic seems more of a pipe dream at this stage than Martial IMHO.

Will make it all the more delicious when we snatch him away from them at the very last moment.

TheWallYid · Aug 8, 2018

WorthATry said:
AliZ:

All i Know is that we are relaxed about Dembele, happy if he stays will nurse him through as many games as we can BUT he refused an offer from Inter, has an offer from Japan he has not accepted, don't know of any bid from PL club, which don't mean there isn't one, the player himself wants a big payday ( last contract) and knows he can't play a full season.

As an aside the only CM i have heard us linked with are Kovacic, Cellabios and Ndombele , first 2 are seen as preferred options. I am told no Zaha or Martial and Toby likely to go.

Think I should avoid SC for a bit my heart cant take this rollercoaster!

kieranfitchett · Aug 8, 2018

3 bits of ITK and 13 pages at 10 in the morning is a whirlwind start and i can only see it going one way from here

Parkie · Aug 8, 2018

Grey Fox said:
And talks to monkeys

tony0379 said:
And pays in peanuts

And flings his own shit at passing strangers while screaming incoherently?

SpartanSpur · Aug 8, 2018

RobjDerby said:
Anyone getting excited about Ali Z last line - he just said they are the only CM names he's heard in the past, not that we are in any way close or that we are still looking at them now.

Other ITKs have hinted there was some truth in the links to Lobotka, Cook and Berge however, although there has also been some conflicting info on the prior two.

Mr Pink · Aug 8, 2018

I really do hope we don't let United have Toby unless we get Martial. Fuck them, it's time to act like one of the big boys.

BringBack_leGin · Aug 8, 2018

smallsnc said:
Regarding Dembele, I think this also shows the of tactics that Poch may be planning. I think we may see a 4-3-3 with one DM behind two with Eriksen being one and maybe even Dele the other.

Not focusing on you, just quoting yours as I actually agree with it, but this is all being discussed in the player thread as formations in the itk thread means ban stick sodomy.

SpartanSpur · Aug 8, 2018

0-Tibsy-0 said:
I'm so confused with this 2 in 2 out movement and what it means for the team...

Taking educated guesses, based on the ITK - the two out would be Dembele and Alderweireld.
Dembele based on this mornings ITK and we've been told that there is no way back for Toby at the Club (though would be happy if that isn't that case.

However we have also been told very strongly that Janssen is all but out the door.

So that's 3.

Probably means before the window closes, so excludes the likes of Janssen and GKN who might move abroad after.

SpursTillIDie1882 · Aug 8, 2018

My god the shambles window just gets more shambled ... thanks for the ITK guys .... im just not happy at all

0-Tibsy-0 · Aug 8, 2018

SpartanSpur said:
Probably means before the window closes, so excludes the likes of Janssen and GKN who might move abroad after.

Hadn't interpreted like that - makes sense (y)

Still doesn't calm my worries over the whole picture though (second part of the post).

Derryank · Aug 8, 2018

OptimisticPessimist said:
Will be very sad to see him go as he's mighty on his day. Equally sad to see him in physical decline. Upside is it must surely mean we have a decent replacement lined up that just needs funding.....

It still is his day!

BringBack_leGin · Aug 8, 2018

SpursTillIDie1882 said:
My god the shambles window just gets more shambled ... thanks for the ITK guys .... im just not happy at all

https://www.samaritans.org/

PhezTHFC · Aug 8, 2018

So far so good, waiting for the bad news as this is SC and we are due some. This transfer has done my head in. One minute its great the next its like a kick in the knackers

Nebby · Aug 8, 2018

Dembele is a tricky one. When fit and firing he is a tremendous asset. But it's clear he can no longer do a full season. If used sparingly, will he be as effective? Will he be match sharp when we bring him in? In his absence, might we happen upon a better system / style, almost making him redundant? Also like the guy, so wouldn't begrudge him a pension contract somewhere else.

Nebby · Aug 8, 2018

Mr Pink said:
I really do hope we don't let United have Toby unless we get Martial. Fuck them, it's time to act like one of the big boys.

Totally agree. But we're buggered if he just refuses to go elsewhere.

Rout-Ledge · Aug 8, 2018

It's a pretty simple one as far as Dembele is concerned. If we replace him with someone who is better now (not potentially better) then selling is fine. If we don't, it's a pisstake.

Dougal · Aug 8, 2018

Rout-Ledge said:
It's a pretty simple one as far as Dembele is concerned. If we replace him with someone who is better now (not potentially better) then selling is fine. If we don't, it's a pisstake.

Players better than Dembele aren't generally available. Which is why it would be a coup to keep him.

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