Danny Rose

Spurrific · Aug 10, 2017

thebenjamin said:
DL has turned it in imo. Knows he's only 12 months from completing stadium, putting club on the market and making a billion £ profit, so why bother with all this shit. Let someone else deal with it.

Not sure about that. I think Levy knows that selling a few of our most valuable assets will take away a substantial chunk from our value. Then again, fuck knows. I just assumed he wanted to sell whoever Poch deemed as expendable to pay off the loans for the stadium as quickly as possible.

I think he's just massively bollocksed up and not acclimated to the transfer window. I usually back him to the hilt, but Levy has taken the piss out of Poch, the fans and the squad that gave everything to drag us up the league last season by not investing yet. Obviously it's down to him that we have the squad we do and the manager we do, but this window he has been a fucking shambles.

Hercules · Aug 10, 2017

Whilst I fully understand how people feel, there are some hilarious knee jerk reactions. And I personally don't buy it that Poch was not aware. Rose is extremely close with the gaffa for starters. He councils, supports, gives him certain days off for family reasons. He normally takes council with him.

The training ground knows Rose is like this, and he will not toe the 'keep ssh' party line. If you meet him he is quiet and polite. He will speak his mind within reason. Managers also use players to provoke a steer. Not saying this is the case here.

HildoSpur · Aug 10, 2017

Lemon said:
Being teachers pet, my gut instinct is he ran this past Poch being doing it.

If so, Levy better get signing big cheques pronto.

I'd like Martial plus £30m. Then a £100m blitz in the new 2-3weeks.

I doubt this - I think him being injured has meant long periods of time being outside of the inner circle and has given the hamsters in his head far too much time to think about things while not being under the wing of Poch.

Trix · Aug 10, 2017

Poch's pre match Presser is going to be interesting.

markiespurs · Aug 10, 2017

ajspurs said:
So good to see Gary Neville saying what a lot on here are saying. It's not the wanting out that's the problem is how he's gone about doing it. Hopefully Neville will get the chance to say it on SSN so it can be repeated every hour for Rose to see! Some of the stuff you'd be a bit disappointed about but you'd just be left thinking 'oh, he wants to go then' but instead there's just soooo much there that he didn't need to publicly say. Really thought he had a better head on his shoulders.

Like I said last night, if every player spoke their 'true and honest' mind like Rose has just done there'd be complete anarchy at a lot of clubs.

I could'nt stand Nevile as a player, but as a pundit he is one of the best and often gets it spot on.

shelfboy68 · Aug 10, 2017

Trix said:
Poch's pre match Presser is going to be interesting.

Certainly not what he was planning to say now the media will only want to talk about one thing.

double0 · Aug 10, 2017

Spurs' Pipe Dreams said:
Fascinating insight into the mind of a football fan, some who were complaining about Vertonghen and Dembele towing the corporate line and being media trained etc etc are now complaining that Danny has done a very honest interview.

He's not burnt any bridges and actually praises Levy saying he's done a brilliant job, with Pochettino being a world class manager. Yes he has a go at fans from a few years ago, tbh I remember the vitriol on here and it was pretty fucking bad.

After a restless night's sleep, in my eyes Danny has said what he feels, rightly or wrongly it's his personal take on things and certainly will open up the discussion at the club in regards to wages going forward.

If he's not sold this summer and I guess it's a big if currently, then Pochettino, who suffers no fools or prima-donnas has forgiven him or at the least got him motivated for the upcoming campaign.

I appreciate as fans it's hard not to get emotional about these things but if anything, Judas has taught us that players are mercenary and no-one is bigger than the club, we'll get over Danny doing a stupid interview, just like we're a bigger and better club since that Judas C*** fucked us over all those years ago

Roll on the dislikes and disagree but it has to be said Sol Campbell served his contact. Lump it or leave it as much as we all hated the way it was done... He honored the contract signed.

E17yid · Aug 10, 2017

TaoistMonkey said:
Levy should call both Rose and Davies into a meeting. Sit them both down and then award Davies a new contract with double his wages then say thanks for all you hard work and commitment to Davies without uttering a single word to Rose and then let them both leave.

Nah, we should buy Marcelo for £80m and say to Rose "you wanted some competition you ****

Lemon · Aug 10, 2017

HildoSpur said:
I doubt this - I think him being injured has meant long periods of time being outside of the inner circle and has given the hamsters in his head far too much time to think about things while not being under the wing of Poch.

Perhaps, but I think he may have said he was going to moan about our lack of spend, then his mouth ran away with him at interview...

Otherwise, you know that is going to cause a lose of trust and confidence implied in the working contract.

spursfan77 · Aug 10, 2017

Trix said:
I think you are probably right. I mean straight away there are now managers that would be thinking is he really worth the risk? Can he be trusted to keep things in house? Then how would his new team mates react to him? I just don't see his representatives orchestrating this at all, it makes no sense. I think straight away this rules out Conte having any interest and probably Pep as well. It is just a really really stupid thing to do especially so close to the start of the season, and imo is worse than how Walker behaved(and that was behind closed doors. Poch's entire philosophy is based on everyone pulling in the same direction, and fighting for each other. That has just been totally blown out of the window imo. I would bet my last pound Poch will be absolutely fuming this morning and IMO Rose will be gone before the window shuts

A poster on coys is saying his agent knew nothing about it. I'm sceptical. Agree with you though. Footballers hate people breaking ranks and saying what goes on behind closed doors. I suspect quite a few players (who have the professionalism) won't be happy about this.

Hazardousman · Aug 10, 2017

james Stock said:
With luck he is cleaning out his locker as I write, he played 18 of our league games last season. You simply can't keep disloyal players, especially idiotic ingrates. Like Walker his heart is no longer in it. Next.

As I suspect many others won't be if we continue the way we are going in regards to transfers, there is simply no excuse for our lack of activity.

I understand we cannot go out and spend £200m on players like every other club but at a certain point you are taking the piss with the fans and the players and the manager.

We are the only club in the league that hasn't made a signing, we have one functional right back that is currently injured and we sold our other one without even replacing him before the season starts, we lack depth in numerous areas.

This isn't a matter of money, it's a matter of common sense and ambition, how can you expect the players hearts to be in it when the club itself isn't even invested in trying to reach the next level.

A stadium doesn't win trophies in the short term, players do, eventually a stadium may help us bring better players to the club but this team and manager is the best shot we have had in a long time, is it worth throwing away because we don't want to invest a little or because we think a stadium is more important than trophies?

Trix · Aug 10, 2017

Hercules said:
Whilst I fully understand how people feel, there are some hilarious knee jerk reactions. And I personally don't buy it that Poch was not aware. Rose is extremely close with the gaffs for starters. He councils, supports, gives him certain days off for family reasons. He normally takes council with him.

The training ground knows Rose is like this, and he will not toe the 'keep ssh' party line. If you meet him he is quiet and polite. He will speak his mind within reason. Managers also use players to provoke a steer. Not saying this is the case here.

That's all well and good, but he has now all but publically called half his team mates shit, and said they are not up to the job.

Hercules · Aug 10, 2017

Trix said:
Poch's pre match Presser is going to be interesting.

He will be briefed by the club PR how to respond. Not necessarily meaning what you hear is gospel.

JUSTINSIGNAL · Aug 10, 2017

WiganSpur said:
If he's sold too and the money isn't reinvested adequately I think Poch will resign. We do have certain financial constraints but there is such a thing as taking the piss and being brutally honest we kind of are right now.

He's not gonna be sold this summer mate

shelfboy68 · Aug 10, 2017

Colonel Dax said:
I just don't see how we can adequately replace Rose before the window shuts. We still haven't replaced Walker despite knowing he's off for months. We'll probably end up using Vertonghen as a backup LB. What an utter shitshow this transfer window is

Well it isn't good is it still the only team in the EPL not to buy anyone and not looking likely but who is to blame for this.
I'm sure at the end of this lessons will have been learnt and it won't happen again well hopefully.

TheVoiceofReason · Aug 10, 2017

Trix said:
Hopefully abroad!

China.

Hercules · Aug 10, 2017

Trix said:
That's all well and good, but he has now all but publically called half his team mates shit, and said they are not up to the job.

I hear you Trix.

SpursDave88 · Aug 10, 2017

Trix said:
I think you are probably right. I mean straight away there are now managers that would be thinking is he really worth the risk? Can he be trusted to keep things in house? Then how would his new team mates react to him? I just don't see his representatives orchestrating this at all, it makes no sense. I think straight away this rules out Conte having any interest and probably Pep as well. It is just a really really stupid thing to do especially so close to the start of the season, and imo is worse than how Walker behaved(and that was behind closed doors. Poch's entire philosophy is based on everyone pulling in the same direction, and fighting for each other. That has just been totally blown out of the window imo. I would bet my last pound Poch will be absolutely fuming this morning and IMO Rose will be gone before the window shuts

A disaster then - Levy has destroyed everything we have been building for in one summer - a truly terrible state of affairs. We will be cutting our nose off to spite our face if we sell him, just as we did with Walker and I fully expect the squad and manager to be fully dismantled by the time we move to the new stadium.

thebenjamin · Aug 10, 2017

Spurrific said:
Not sure about that. I think Levy knows that selling a few of our most valuable assets will take away a substantial chunk from our value.

I think he's just massively bollocked up and not acclimated to the transfer window. I usually back him to the hilt, but Levy has taken the piss out of Poch, the fans and the squad that gave everything to drag us up the league last season by not investing yet. Obviously it's down to him that we have the squad we do and the manager we do, but this window he has been a fucking shambles.

The tell tale sign for me is he's normally so proactive with contracts. But Toby has said we haven't even started talks yet about his new deal, and we could so easily have prevented this entirely predictable Rose situation by starting talks over a new deal this summer, telling him how much we value him, pay rise on the way etc. And none of this of would have happened.

The fact that none of this has been done is completely against Levy's MO, and obviously the abject failure to improve the squad, I think the stadium is the be all and end all for DL now, it's his end game, the reason he came to the Clun in the first place. To do a truly giant property deal, make a billion pounds clear profit and disappear into the night.

ilikeost · Aug 10, 2017

Now that I've slept on it I feel like I can give a more calm opinion on his actions.

He can fuck off.

Forums

What's new

Matches

Sportsbook

Members

Danny Rose

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Likes Erik Lamela, deal with it.

Well-Known Member

SC Supporter

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

End World Debt

Well-Known Member

Audere est Facere

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Similar threads