Well actually, he wasn't sacked. He walked.
Opinion of AVB in hindsight?
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Khilari
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Was talking to someone who worked at the club (and still does) whilst AVB was in charge, yesterday after the Southampton game.
His opinion was that AVB was very different to any of the other managers we've had in recent memory in terms of his persona.
He gave no real opinion on the football side of things but did say that he thought AVB was up himself. He was very much about the nicest cars, the suits, the watches and he's not at all surprised that he's travelled to Russia and China, where the monetary reward is great. He was more about his own success and achievements rather than what he could do for the club.
Again, opinions of one man but someone who worked with him and got to know him to a certain extent.
IMO the football we played under AVB was boring, predictable and turgid. Yes we accumulated 72 points but despite that hadn't nothing to show for it.
His opinion was that AVB was very different to any of the other managers we've had in recent memory in terms of his persona.
He gave no real opinion on the football side of things but did say that he thought AVB was up himself. He was very much about the nicest cars, the suits, the watches and he's not at all surprised that he's travelled to Russia and China, where the monetary reward is great. He was more about his own success and achievements rather than what he could do for the club.
Again, opinions of one man but someone who worked with him and got to know him to a certain extent.
IMO the football we played under AVB was boring, predictable and turgid. Yes we accumulated 72 points but despite that hadn't nothing to show for it.
Geyzer Soze
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Poch's has been just that too for a sizable part of his tenure tbf
Danfunkel
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Don't remember the TS era. Took enough drugs to get myself through it
Khilari
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You state that like you were privy to the discussions at the time.
If I "walk" before I'm actually given the sack, when rumour has it I'm about to be sacked, then whilst factually that may be correct, I'm not sure the reality still holds true.
I think the truth is probably that he wanted to leave and knew he was going to get the sack. But I can only speculate!
GeneralBurk
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Really? Totally reliant on the brilliance on one player to make up for the fact that everyone else is passing sideways hoping the opposition fall asleep. Even in the 90s when we were shit at least we weren't boring.
Poch has developed the best defence Spurs have had for a generation. His record was similar at Southampton. When we attack we don't look devoid of ideas. This from the Redknapp team he inherited as well.
GeneralBurk
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I've sacked people by 'mutual consent'. It's a polite conversation met with a firm fuck off and a weeks money to not bother me again.
DaSpurs
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The March break always seems the worst of it on here, as people get more retrospective in their thinking and start dredging out some serious sludge. Wasn't even remotely surprised to log in this morning and see two threads on AVB and Sherwood.
Geyzer Soze
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You don't remember large parts of last season, & this season to November? Long long bore draws, no goals from open play, creativity hovering around zero?
DaSpurs
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To me, that was primarily in his first season, when he was working with a squad that he entirely inherited. We have improved tremendously in his regard since two years ago, and despite still having much room to improve, that suggests just how bad it was by multiple managers back then.
TottenhamMattSpur
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Walked with two Levy shaped hands planted firmly in his back ensuring speed and precision.
What do you mean fuck 72 points? That is our highest points total. He also got us to the quarter final. We narrowly missed out on the CL. How you going to credit the players and not give the manager credit?
If you can't give him credit then you can't give him blame either.
Geyzer Soze
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This season to December wasn't fantastic, remember? Pretty turgid stuff it was for the most part
What you may or may not have done has absolutely nothing to do with the AVB situation. AVB walked. He resigned. He wasn't sacked and wasn't going to be sacked at that moment.
DaSpurs
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Wanted the man out when he was set to leave, but I have to partially agree here. He did tighten up our defense tremendously (there at the end that was confusion and mental bitchassness), and he most certainly had a part in bolstering Bale to becoming what he did that season, and my god what a treat that was.
Everlasting Seconds
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I'm sure this is partially true, actually. However, I'd want a manager with high ambitions for him self. Pochettino has ambitions, Sherwood certainly did. I don't see them as negative. But maybe AVB didn't know how to express them in a UK work place.
Can't answer without reaching a communal understanding of what "responsible" is. He has not sole responsibility. But he is not without responsibility. Let's say he hugely ... speculated in stacking up the odds whichever way he can.
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It wasn't great, but I don't remember it being anywhere near as bad as it was two years ago, and especially not during AVB's reign.
AVB improved our defence a great deal. As for now not looking "devoid of ideas", we do....OFTEN...when teams park the bus. We distictly run out of ideas. Hence 0-0 draws against Bourenmouth, Sunderland and several 1-1 draws against other lower table teams.
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AVB got us 4th with a team that had the following midfield
Lennon ( unfilled potential)
Dembele
Parker (older and not the player he was)
Siggy (an AM being played out of position)
Of course bale was good, but he also had to play up top with an out of sorts Adebayor too. Our only decent CB was Vertonghen, Gallas and Kaboul were our back ups whilst we had Dempsey as a back up AM too.
That midfield wouldn't be good enough to stay up let alone compete with Top 4.
Lennon ( unfilled potential)
Dembele
Parker (older and not the player he was)
Siggy (an AM being played out of position)
Of course bale was good, but he also had to play up top with an out of sorts Adebayor too. Our only decent CB was Vertonghen, Gallas and Kaboul were our back ups whilst we had Dempsey as a back up AM too.
That midfield wouldn't be good enough to stay up let alone compete with Top 4.
Shadydan
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5th
And also bearing in mind he was our manager 3 years ago and that midfield didn't look that out of sorts amongst the top 6' at the time.. that midfield was spearheaded by the best player in the league, swings and roundabouts.
