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DaSpurs

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Really enjoying watching this, Carroll looks such a tidy player.

His speed of thought, closeness of touch, and sheer creativity/originality is fantastic for his age. I will be unbelievably pissed if we let him go this summer.
 

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Sorry guys, I'm just now tuning in, have Redmond and Pritch largely stuck to these respective sides or have they alternated?
 

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His speed of thought, closeness of touch, and sheer creativity/originality is fantastic for his age.
It may be good, but I disagree with the 'for his age' part. There are shitloads of good young midfielders nowadays.
 

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Stones is a talent, for sure.

Alex Pritchard works really hard, you can see the difference in his work rate after that loan at Brentford. He presses really well and comes alive on the ball.

Genuinely think that he'll be next season's Kane (the breaking into the first team and excelling bit, not the 30 goals bit!).
 

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It may be good, but I disagree with the 'for his age' part. There are shitloads of good young midfielders nowadays.

And I disagree with that. Even other players of potential don't often possess his sheer ingenuity. He comes up with some truly bizarre stuff, and has the close touch to pull it off.

In fact, I would argue it even borders on being a weakness. Some of his ideas are so unusual that I think it makes it somewhat more difficult for his teammates to predict what he's thinking, and so a lot of his touches to them in tight and closed spaces don't come off. He looks to tuned this up a bit more, and if he really gets it tight and plays with players who can read him, it can be a tremendous strength.

Ward-Prowse conversely is a tremendously talented player and may be more efficient, but he just doesn't possess the creativity Carroll does.
 

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For me, Stones is going to be John Terry's replacement. I can't see Everton being able to hold onto somebody's of his calibre, once the big boys come calling.

Zouma and Stones would be unbelievable.


JWP is someone who has a future at the higher levels too, although i'd like to give Carroll a run out first.
 

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And I disagree with that. Even other players of potential don't often possess his sheer ingenuity. He comes up with some truly bizarre stuff, and has the close touch to pull it off.

In fact, I would argue it even borders on being a weakness. Some of his ideas are so unusual that I think it makes it somewhat more difficult for his teammates to predict what he's thinking, and so a lot of his touches to them in tight and closed spaces don't come off. He looks to tuned this up a bit more, and if he really gets it tight and plays with players who can read him, it can be a tremendous strength.

Ward-Prowse conversely is a tremendously talented player and may be more efficient, but he just doesn't possess the creativity Carroll does.
Do you think Carroll is better than all our current midfielders?
 

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Do you think Carroll is better than all our current midfielders?

No, but I don't get too hung up on saying only the best quality players should play at any given point in time. It's extremely important to have diverse and balanced options, and Carroll offers abilities and skills which none of our other midfielders possess. I do think he could go on to be a better player than Mason if he's allowed to continue to develop, but more importantly, he provides an entirely different option to our midfielders of the future in Mason, Bentaleb, and Alli.

We're absolute shit in tight areas, and very poor at playmaking from deep. I don't think we should be getting rid of a homegrown, quality deep playmaker who proved himself well in his last consistent month of EPL play. Having nothing but double pivot midfielders would be a very, very poor plan.
 

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No, but I don't get too hung up on saying only the best quality players should play at any given point in time. It's extremely important to have diverse and balanced options, and Carroll offers abilities and skills which none of our other midfielders possess. I do think he could go on to be a better player than Mason if he's allowed to continue to develop, but more importantly, he provides an entirely different option to our midfielders of the future in Mason, Bentaleb, and Alli.

We're absolute shit in tight areas, and very poor at playmaking from deep. I don't think we should be getting rid of a homegrown, quality deep playmaker who proved himself well in his last consistent month of EPL play. Having nothing but double pivot midfielders would be a very, very poor plan.
Why don't we just use Winks? He seems to be a similar player and is 3-4 years younger.
 
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