All it takes is countless hours spent in the gym doing agility training. The fitness coaches probably take massive pride in seeing the dramatic change in his ability, just like the academy coaches take massive pride in seeing him do so well for us.
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well that will always be the point of splitting hairs - Soldado now plays the same role Kane did early on, what with late short appearances, but to many a game is a game. He's still on to do well with the games left
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Honestly, I never thought he was slow. Couldn't understand people saying he was snail like. He wasn't Owen quick but he was quick enough and used his body so well it didn't ever look like it would matter. He has definitely got quicker and stronger but I think the reason people think he is so much faster is because they underestimated him before.
Realise I've gone a bit ranty in this thread which is silly as it should be celebratory but this should be the template for all kids coming through. Be patient, don't write them off, focus on what they can do, not what they can't and give them 100% support. Imagine how much extra weight his song would have it we had given it him as a 17 year old.
I love our side at the moment. Sure, like all fans, I love us spunking money and signings stars (signing Klinsman and VdV were some of the best days supporting us) but I absolute love seeing players like Mason, Bentaleb, Rose, Townsend and Kane having big impacts in our side.
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If we wait any longer we will be talking about the next 'Harry Kane'.
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For me as a fan it gets no better than seeing this lad doing the business for us. Hearing him speak it is so clear how much more motivated he is playing for us than a lot of the stars we have had. For me the only recent players that got it like this that we signed were vdv and Dawson. Keep. The academy players coming into the squad and leading by example.
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Can I just say, while it is always good seeing people admit when they were previously wrong or judged a player too early it almost always seems to come with a caveat in attempt to still cover their back.
I've read people say 'Kane has converted me. He never seemed to have the pace/technique/finishing/shooting ability/composure/vision/awareness/strength/heading ability to be a top player but he has really developed that in the last few months.' No, he has always had it, there is no harm in admitting that it was never spotted before, but he didn't all of a sudden develop these qualities in the last month. It is the same qualities he has had since coming through the youth set up which has earned him England call ups, loans at a young age, and had youth watchers raving about him. When he wasn't rated did people think that they, his supporters, were making stuff up when they thought he could play. I think it just shows the need for patience and to trust those that have seen them play most.
I recently read that a Bentaleb converter said something like, he now realises his ability since he has started to tackle more, but in his first game he made something like the most tackles in a match that season, and didn't really significantly improve that stat. People will just make stuff up to justify why they didn't like him when it was purely due to judgement being clouded, a lake of patience or just not spotting the talent. The biggest change in both Kane and Bentaleb is their confidence and experience, of course they will have improved other areas slightly but they still have the same characteristics that caught everyone's attention in the first place, and are key to their success now.
EDIT - I see @Larryjanta has got in a cheeky rant before me
I've read people say 'Kane has converted me. He never seemed to have the pace/technique/finishing/shooting ability/composure/vision/awareness/strength/heading ability to be a top player but he has really developed that in the last few months.' No, he has always had it, there is no harm in admitting that it was never spotted before, but he didn't all of a sudden develop these qualities in the last month. It is the same qualities he has had since coming through the youth set up which has earned him England call ups, loans at a young age, and had youth watchers raving about him. When he wasn't rated did people think that they, his supporters, were making stuff up when they thought he could play. I think it just shows the need for patience and to trust those that have seen them play most.
I recently read that a Bentaleb converter said something like, he now realises his ability since he has started to tackle more, but in his first game he made something like the most tackles in a match that season, and didn't really significantly improve that stat. People will just make stuff up to justify why they didn't like him when it was purely due to judgement being clouded, a lake of patience or just not spotting the talent. The biggest change in both Kane and Bentaleb is their confidence and experience, of course they will have improved other areas slightly but they still have the same characteristics that caught everyone's attention in the first place, and are key to their success now.
EDIT - I see @Larryjanta has got in a cheeky rant before me
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Delighted to see someone else rant with me. Cheers!
For some of our fans, they seem to take the position of "ok, do something to earn my support".
That's why, when they're not £20m players in 10 games (and that's being generous, some will make a call after 10 minutes at the end of a game) people find things about them they don't rate and ignore everything they do have.
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I don't think it is a caveat to cover their backs (no always anyway). Usually when you think a player isn't going to make it, there are reasons why (if not why don't you think they will make it) and they are stating them.
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I honestly can't get over the transformation of this guy. Yes he had agility and a good footballing brain from the beginning, but he always looked flustered after the first 20mins when he came on as a substitute.
Now he is a beast! A powerhouse who is strong on the ball, quick and can go past players just as easily as Dembele. On top of that he's got a hell of a shot and great vision who reads the game really well. And on top of that he is only 21 who will only mature! I don't even think Bale was this established at 21 years old and even though I am a spurs fan I feel he has been the best and most exciting young player this season in the PL.
Now he is a beast! A powerhouse who is strong on the ball, quick and can go past players just as easily as Dembele. On top of that he's got a hell of a shot and great vision who reads the game really well. And on top of that he is only 21 who will only mature! I don't even think Bale was this established at 21 years old and even though I am a spurs fan I feel he has been the best and most exciting young player this season in the PL.
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Not splitting hairs. An open and straight forward query on the rhe original quote which was '10 goals in 19 PL games' from which an extrapolation was being made.
I was suggesting that numbers of starts might be more relevant - which I guess is about 10 goals in 14 matches (but please correct me).
Of course goals per PL minute might be more accurate - which I'd guess at a goal every 110 - 120 PL minutes.
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One goal every 125.1 mins.
13 starts, 6 subs, 10 goals.
According to Whoscored.com, per position in all comps:
FW(C) - 12 games, 10 goals, 1 assist
AM(C) - 5 games 4 goals, no assists
Sub - 7 games, 1goal, 1 assist.
I think they're missing his double the other day, so FW(C) might be 13 games, 12 goals. Not sure though.
Soldado is on 3 goals in 15 starts, Ade is 2 goals in 11 starts
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1 goal every 125 mins. 9 goals in 13 starts (1 goal was off the bench).
In all comps, it's 1 goal ever 111 mins and 18 goals in 23 starts.
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It's 20 in all comps .
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Yes but 2 goals were off the bench (1 in PL v Villa and 1 in league cup v Forest), so these stats show how many starts and goals from those starts.
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Just been on another forum where Chelsea fans called Kane 'the real deal' United and Liverpool fans stated they 'love' him and wished they could sign him (didn't read any comments thinking that they could either) and all who commented wanted him in the England team.
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Harry has signed a new 5 1/2 year contract!!!!
Tottenham Hotspur@SpursOfficial1 min1 minute ago
CONTRACT: @hkane28 has signed a new five-and-a-half year contract
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CONTRACT: @hkane28 has signed a new five-and-a-half year contract
